this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Here's an interesting article that I found. At least it was interesting to me.... ;) Analyzing trends on a game that is only played once a year is tricky business even if conditions are static, and in this case they ...
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|03-01-2005, 02:44 PM||#1|
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Here's an interesting article that I found. At least it was interesting to me.... ;)
Analyzing trends on a game that is only played once a year is tricky business even if conditions are static, and in this case they aren't. The NFL is in a constant state of flux and there have been many changes in the last decade or so that make results from too far back irrelevant. Changes such as free agency, timekeeping (there are 15-20% fewer plays in games today as compared to 20 years ago) and the salary cap make Super Bowl scores from the 60s, 70s and even the 80s meaningless when predicting future outcomes.
That doesn't mean the task is impossible; it just means you have to be a little more careful when using your results. It is an arbitrary choice I admit, but for the purposes of this column, I looked at Super Bowls from the 1990 season and beyond.
All of these games are played at neutral sites so the first place to start is to look at favorites and underdogs. Favorites over the last 14 years are an impressive 10-4 (71%) straight-up (SU) in Super Bowls, but only a perfectly average 6-6-2 (50%) against the spread (ATS).
My next step was to look at offenses and defenses. I made notes of how each team was ranked in the entire NFL that season on both sides of the ball in terms of points for and against. Then I compared to see how the team with the higher ranked offenses did and how the teams with the higher ranked defenses did.
At first, there didn't appear to be much difference between the two sets of results as the better offensive teams were 11-3 SU (79%) and 7-5-2 ATS (57%), while the better defensive teams were 12-2 SU (86%) and 8-4-2 ATS (67%). There was a slight lean to the defense, but with only 14 games in the sample, it is tough to say with any certainty.
But a little more analysis turned up some interesting stats. In these 14 Super Bowls, the #1 ranked defense has won 5 games and the #1 ranked offense has won 5 times. The catch is that a #1 ranked defense has not lost, while the #1 scoring unit has 3 times (including twice in the last three years with the Rams losing to the Patriots in 2001, and the Raiders losing to the Bucs in 2002).
In fact, no defense ranked in the top 3 has lost a Super Bowl in this time frame while an amazing 7 offenses ranked in the top 3 have lost (please note that 4 of these losses were to other offenses ranked in the top 3)! In total, defenses ranked in the top 3 are a perfect 8-0 SU and were 5-2-1 ATS (71%). That seems a lot better to me than the 6-7-3 (46%) ATS record of top 3 offenses (this adds to more than 14 because of the head-to-head games between the top scorers).
Another point on defenses to consider is that the last 4 Super Bowl winners have all had a defense that ranks higher than their offense. That comes on the heels of 9 straight games where the winner had a better, or equal, ranked offense. Consider your last 4 winners:
2000 Baltimore Offense #14 Defense #1
2001 New England Offense #6 Defense #5
2002 Tampa Bay Offense #16 Defense #1
2003 New England Offense #12 Defense #1
Perhaps the winds of change are afoot and defenses are even more important in the NFL right now than they have been even over these last 14 seasons.
Another important point on the topic of defenses is that for trends to be of any value there has to be a logical explanation and in this case I think there is. The Super Bowl is the largest bet single game in North America by far. There is an incredible amount of beginner and novice bettors playing this game and they tend to prefer teams that can score. This attraction to the high-scoring teams (who are usually the favorites, Denver in 1997 being the lone exception) drives the pointspread up as books try to balance action and creates a little extra advantage for those that play the defensive underdogs.
And one last trendÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã‚Â¦when a team has a higher ranked offense and a higher ranked defense than their opponent, they are a perfect 9-0 SU and a very impressive 5-2-2 ATS (71%).
Ok, now that we have the past behind us let's look at the present. How do the two teams in this game stack up?
New England scored 437 points (ranked 4th) and allowed 260 (ranked 2nd).
Philadelphia scored 386 points (ranked 8th) and allowed 260 (ranked 2nd).
If you consider Philly gave up 58 points in the last two weeks to weak opponents because they dressed their back-ups for those meaningless games, you could be tempted to give their defense the nod for a higher rank. However, the Eagles did play in the weak NFC, so you could make a case for the Pats defense. Regardless, it looks like this is going to be a tough game to call, and hopefully exciting to watch. Whichever D you prefer is probably the place to put your money.
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|03-01-2005, 04:53 PM||#2|
Join Date: Jan 2005
so basically if you score alot and don\'t give up as much-you win???
seriously...THis just shows how important it is that your offense scores-which ours could not do effectively.
HEre is something that I find intereting:
time of possession:
Opponenets offenses were on the feild longer than were
22/27 31/35 -that is the difference in feild goals kicked ours/theirs...they kicked almost ten more feild goals that we did--which means our defense was holding them a little atleast but that our offense was getting held out of feild goal range. only 3 of our feild goals were inside the 30--and we punted when we were inside the 20-ten more times than did our opponents.
3.9 to 3.0
that is brooks\' TD/INT ratio..so for every time he threw a touchdown he threw an interception almost.
16 260 16 76 1 that is what the opponents did with those interceptions--260 yards from 16 interceptions...with a long of 76 and a TD.
Now duece was hurt in the beginning of the year and that has to be taken into account..as does the drops by the WIdeouts (which I\'m looking for). I\'m not only blaming brooks-but our offense set our defense up for a disaster-you can\'t put the defense in that posision and not help them out.
our defense had 14 more fumble recoveries than our opponents giving us the ball back.
the other area I see we had major problems in was special teams...we got killed in this area.
btw our offense had more tackles than sullivan..just to let you know.
[Edited on 1/3/2005 by baronm]