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Old 04-04-2016, 11:02 PM   #1
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By now, youíve read at least a hundred mock drafts, some of them on a weekly basis, and a little fatigue is starting to set into your draft-addled mind. You still click on them, sure, but itís hard to find a fresh take when youíve already seen 10 different players projected to the Saints at the 12th pick.

The Advocateís Saints team is about to change all of that. The problem with most mocks is simple: the drafter is making decisions for all 32 teams, rather than reacting to the unpredictability of 31 other teams with a bunch of general managers who might have a completely different board sitting in front of them.

OFF THE BOARD

Titans: CB Jalen Ramsey
Browns: OT Laremy Tunsil
Chargers: DE Joey Bosa
Cowboys: DE Deforest Buckner
Jaguars: LB Myles Jack
Ravens: CB Vernon Hargreaves
49ers: QB Carson Wentz
Eagles: OT Ronnie Stanley
Bucs: CB Eli Apple
Giants: DE Shaq Lawson
Bears: DT AíShawn Robinson

Joel: Oh no. I think I know where weíre headed.



Nick: We got ourselves a situation here. The Titans threw a wrinkle in everything by taking Jalen Ramsey first, which set off a chain reaction that caused Jared Goff to slide a little bit. This is a good example of how an unexpected pick or two can alter expectations. Now the Saints have a decision to make. We donít know how the negotiations with Drew Brees are going. If itís close, you try to deal this pick to the Rams and stock up on picks. If itís not close, and you think Goff could be your guy for the next 10-15 years, you have to seriously consider taking him at this spot.

Joel: Right off the bat, the scenario opens one minor flaw in the process ó namely, that we donít know whether negotiations with Brees are close or not. But if Iím correct, youíre in favor of taking Goff even if Brees re-signs, right?

Nick: I wouldnít hate it in theory. I also wouldnít hate passing on him to maximize the window with Brees ó especially if youíre going to be committed to him for four or five years. But if you really think that Goff could be your guy, it would be hard to pass up on this opportunity. These kinds of situations ó Favre to Rodgers, Manning to Luck ó donít happen very often. You could be set for the foreseeable future. It can be hard to look at whatís going to be best for your team 10 years down the road when there are immediate needs, but you also have to take a long view.

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Old 04-04-2016, 11:14 PM   #2
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I've seen worst draft picks by the Saints in the first round.
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I read about similarities between Goff and Jay Cutler. I havent seen enough of him to draw my own personal opinion, but that scares me.

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Old 04-04-2016, 11:21 PM   #4
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Re: Underhill and Erickson take control of the Saintsí mock draft war room, and the 1st pick is Jared Goff

Trying to remember that other Cal QB who kept dropping on the draft. Think it was 2005?

anyway, no, don't draft Goff
and no, I haven't read 100 mock drafts. It's closer to 4
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Drafting Goff and Powe would be quite intriguing, I think...
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I am not hating the pick at all actually. Take a shot on a future QB to replace Brees. Seriously Brees with us 4 more yeas... I don't see it.

The pick is this - QB of the future or if we hope Brees can hang on for a few years we are drafting the WR.
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Re: Underhill and Erickson take control of the Saintsí mock draft war room, and the 1st pick is Jared Goff

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I read about similarities between Goff and Jay Cutler. I havent seen enough of him to draw my own personal opinion, but that scares me.

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The Jay Cutlures clone coming out of college would be Conner Cook. He is the gunslinger that takes risks and puts too much faith in his receivers to go after the ball. Easily 75% of his interceptions were 50/50 balls his WR lost the battle for. not talking toss up and hope for the best passes here. Strange when you consider his incomplete pass a lot of those were just simply dropped. So why so much trust in WRs that had a history of so many drops? Michigan St over the past couple years was among the college leaders in dropped passes. This is what I think the huge knock on the kid is. I still like the kid. Sit and learn and falling into the second? yep i would take him in 2. I would still consider him at 12.

Goeff I can see the love and understand it. He throws some pretty passes. But he has that serious laid back California kid thing with him just like Peat That always makes me wonder about the fire in his belly. But there are safer picks to had at 12 still on the board.

Kevin Hogan late in the draft is a solid developmental QB option IMO. Maybe lol

Definitely a draft fill with motivation questions and stepping up.
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I would not be mad at this. Let Drew play out this year and if he does not want to make a deal then we have ourselves a backup plan and a extra 30 million in cap room net year.
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No way Goff falls to #12. Sorry folks but someone will jump over us if he even gets close.

And Eli Apple and Ronnie Stanley won't go in the top 10.

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Re: Underhill and Erickson take control of the Saintsí mock draft war room, and the 1st pick is Jared Goff

Now would be good time to start reading "Insights with Mike Detillier" for insider information on Saints draft board. He has nailed our first pick the last couple of years & counting.

Side note - isn't Goff the kid with the so called small hands?
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