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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; gun control? to many out there and even if you managed to swoop in and get all the guns in one day. The criminals would have them again from across the boarder. just stating facts here. Good knows the government ...

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Old 04-12-2016, 08:29 AM   #21
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gun control? to many out there and even if you managed to swoop in and get all the guns in one day. The criminals would have them again from across the boarder. just stating facts here. Good knows the government has flooded Mexico, Central and South America with them.

Issue at is the city state and the US government makes excuses for criminals and blame everyone but the shooter in these cases.

The lawyers go to Washington get elected to political office and pass laws that perpetuates their income. Lobbyist go to these same elected lawyers and lobby for drawn out sentence and rehabilitation to perpetuate their income.

This is one of many money making poncy scheme the US government have going in Washington.

The system is broken and no criminals fear it. They have all the rights and protection that victims have lost.

I say go back to old school with escalators. Make them fear the system once again.

Mandatory 10 years for a crime involving a gun and no chance of parole.
Mandatory 20 if they fire the that gun and no chance of parole.
Mandatory death penalty within 10 years if the kill some one and the case is not cut and dry
Instant death penalty for a murderer caught in the act.

Mandatory 10 years for all public officials and/or lawyers that reckless endanger an American citizen, directly or indirectly.

Chain gang comes back in style. They work for their room and board.

The city of New Orleans is not free of blame nor is Washington
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:49 AM   #22
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I think addressing culture and mental health are the main issue, but I also think improved background checks for guns would help. If you're in a big hurry to get a gun and can't wait for a background check - not a good sign.
Great point. But Laws are in place now that keep those mental health records locked away. Same goes for most felony records.

Next time you fill out an application for a job you will soon notice the question of a felony record is no longer there. It happened to me and when I went to the interview I asked them if they can guarantee myself safety at work since they do not check felony records any more and the would not answer the question. I said no thank you and walked out.

This was the brain child of the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton and the democratic party back when they controlled Washington.

It was the indirect effect of the democrats stopping the trail of Guantanamo Bay detainees based of their confessions. Now they can pray in court and be giving creature comforts and more importantly rights they did not have before. This was inside that same crime bill.

Besides Obama has made illegal guns sales a non violent felony offense since the day he opened the cell gates freed felonies he claimed were not dangerous. Grant some should have been freed but a good number of them just rewrote the criminal justice system with there release. Crack is also no more dangerous than powder cocaine.

Yet another bill of goods sold to the American people. Washington, the states and a lack of common sense is to blame. Lawyers writing laws and voting on those same laws to perpetuate their own professions income should be illegal.

People are responsible for their own actions. Politicians especially should be held to this same standard.

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Old 04-12-2016, 09:14 AM   #23
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Great point. But Laws are in place now that keep those mental health records locked away. Same goes for most felony records.

Next time you fill out an application for a job you will soon notice the question of a felony record is no longer there. It happened to me and when I went to the interview I asked them if they can guarantee myself safety at work since they do not check felony records any more and the would not answer the question. I said no thank you and walked out.

This was the brain child of the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton and the democratic party back when they controlled Washington.

It was the indirect effect of the democrats stopping the trail of Guantanamo Bay detainees based of their confessions. Now they can pray in court and be giving creature comforts and more importantly rights they did not have before. This was inside that same crime bill.

Besides Obama has made illegal guns sales a non violent felony offense since the day he opened the cell gates freed felonies he claimed were not dangerous. Grant some should have been freed but a good number of them just rewrote the criminal justice system with there release. Crack is also no more dangerous than powder cocaine.

Yet another bill of goods sold to the American people. Washington, the states and a lack of common sense is to blame. Lawyers writing laws and voting on those same laws to perpetuate their own professions income should be illegal.

People are responsible for their own actions. Politicians especially should be held to this same standard.
They're just trying to find a way to keep convicted felons from being discriminated against when it comes to employment. Many are continously punished for their crimes long after they pay their debt to society. However, murder, rape, and child molestation should always have to be reported to potential employeers.
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Old 04-12-2016, 09:42 AM   #24
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They're just trying to find a way to keep convicted felons from being discriminated against when it comes to employment. Many are continously punished for their crimes long after they pay their debt to society. However, murder, rape, and child molestation should always have to be reported to potential employeers.
common sense is not allowed.
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Well Coach Payton is human and there are two things he is not an expert - gun rights and football defense...
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common sense is not allowed.
No arguing with that.
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Originally Posted by neugey View Post
I think addressing culture and mental health are the main issue, but I also think improved background checks for guns would help. If you're in a big hurry to get a gun and can't wait for a background check - not a good sign.
Funny you said that...Carol Bowne... fatally stabbed by ex-boyfriend while waiting for background check - NJ.com

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
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Funny you said that...

Carol Bowne... fatally stabbed by ex-boyfriend while waiting for background check - NJ.com



"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state,

the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
If the world would just stop BS'ing and give me superpowers I'd put a stop to all that...but nooooo.....they don't want to fund the Rez Burna becomes Batman with Wolverine skeleton and healing factor campaign.
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If the world would just stop BS'ing and give me superpowers I'd put a stop to all that...but nooooo.....they don't want to fund the Rez Burna becomes Batman with Wolverine skeleton and healing factor campaign.
Hey why not we Who Dats live in a fantasy world anyway. We seldom have
a grasp on reality until someone mentions Atlanta.
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With the ease of getting guns in this country, legally and illegally, there's never going to be a "fix" to the problem of gun violence. There's also never going to be a "fix" to a terrorist blowing themselves up if they choose to do so. So what do we do? The ideas floated around range from doing nothing at all, arming everyone, all the way up to martial law. Doing nothing accepts it. Arming everyone is insane. And martial law of course will never fly. Thus, here we are.
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