Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns'

SmashMouth · 04-15-2016, 03:45 AM

jeanpierre · 04-15-2016, 05:58 AM

Wow, Smash, just...wow...

Any chance that you and Foreverfan are related?!? Just curious...

OldMaid · 04-16-2016, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

It seems to have worked for the UK; just sayin'

Ok, everyone always brings up The U.K.

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In The United Kingdom of Great Britian, guns are rampant and easy to get. THAT IS for the nobility, aristos, landed gentry, and those on the outer fringe, yet connected, to those in that U.K. class system.

How can you go on hunts without your guns!!

The peasants, I mean, other classes than these people are NOT allowed guns.
Oh. Well, in The United States of America, our laws, etc. do not have that same class system.

Be it wrong, right, whatever your thoughts and feelings are, guns are here to stay and have been since the country was founded.
PROBLEM- criminal justice system. This thug/POS, now being called a gentle giant, Hayes, with a criminal background was a just a case like this waiting to happen. See The Advocate in B.R. for a write up the "gentle giant" from the babershop pals. ReallY PLU-LEEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where oh where did I hear the GENTLE GIANT bullshet from before? Oh yeah....
Problem-working harder to get guns out of those who do not need them
( the crazy mother in CT with her troubled son). Rich White woman in rich White area and rich White area of town did not need guns around her son who had issues of Asbergers and/or Autism, etc. She also never needed to show him how to shoot.
Criminals do not need guns. Trying to stop the black market of guns can put some dent in it. Trying to catch those criminals/felons with guns can put some sort of dent in it. Assault weapons, you really do not need those kinds of weapons.
These things, hard to do to stop weapons out the hands of the wrong people.
Yeah, perfect system, only those who can have guns should have them , but who is to say WHO should have guns? Take criminals out of the equation. Lets just say no criminals can get guns. Ok for debating..sake of argument.
Ok, so only law abiding citizens. Ok, well who are they?
That would stop more than half of us here, realy LOL, 99.9 99999 % of us from having a gun. YES it would. Like in THE UNITED KINGDOM, ONLY the wealthy of the nobitlity/aristos/landed gentry and those on the fringe but well connected to these people can have and do have guns.

Ok, I am off my soapbox.

Sorry for rant.

OldMaid · 04-16-2016, 05:39 PM

jeanpirre's post on pg. 6 about Coach SP, I agree. YES, he is very emotional right now. He simply spoke from the heart, emotionally, about this issue. Looking for something, someone to blame.
I give him a pass.
He, like Rosie O'Donnell, Bob Costas, etc. are NOT against guns. They spew off from an emotional point like Coach SP or an elitist's point like O'Donnell and Costas.
TRUST ME TRUST ME, Ms. Skylenne and Coach SP's ex wife and kids are very safe as they can be in their worlds. I do not care how White you are or if you are Black or whatever, you are not going up to their front doors or even freely drive around their neighborhoods. They have private armed security patrols.
Remember when O'Donnell brought her gun stance, she had private armed security for her children. AND no, I do not blame her for having armed private bodyguards for her kids. Lots of nuts out there and maybe she was under threat or something at that time.

Costas the other elitists , LOL, I had posted then when he went on the air talking about his gun viewpoint, ummm, try , go on and try to enter his Park Ave/Upper Central Park/Trump apt, whatever building. You be be shot on the spot. LOL!!! Go on and try to enter the broadcasting booth , LOL. Again, shot on the spot!!

Guns. Whether you are a gun owner or not, and that is your choice to own or not, I have been told, you NEVER want to use it. You really don't.
God forbid you EVER have to use it.
I think that is pretty powerful. Think about that for a minute.

Criminal Hayes shot Smith 8 times and shot Smith's wife 2 times. The Smith kids were less than maybe 10 minutes close to being orphans.
Think about that for a minute.

This Hayes thug 's life was NOT in danger. He was in his army vehicle of a Hummer. He , nor his male passenger , was not about to be robbed, raped, beat up , kidnapped, in fear of life, etc. by Smith and wife.
Think about that for a minute.

You have here typical case of wrong hands on a gun. PROBLEM-how do you stop guns out of the wrong hands of people.
How do you stop this culture we have here of gun violence?

UK_WhoDat · 04-17-2016, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by OldMaid

Ok, everyone always brings up The U.K.

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

Yes it is WRONG to bring up the United Kingdom. It is a completely different place to the United States of America. The two places may have words that sound the same. And the United Kingdom certrtainly have its share of citizens that admires so much that is US of A. However when it comes to guns and ownership, there is a chasm.

What the US of A does is none of nmy business.

Simplistically in the UK: Any person can apply for a permit. The ownership of guns. FIREARMS, is not down to class, or nobility or wealth. It does not mean the application is granted positively. Usually any permits granted are for SHOTGUNS only for landowners, who need not be nobility or rich or of a certain class, for use on their land. The permit is for a Shotgun, not a rifle or an automatic side arm. The permit is for use only on their land. They are not allowed by law to carry it on their person to a public place or in their vehicle. When the gun is not required for use, it must be locked away.

An exception is if one requires a firearm for sport. Membership of the relevant sport is a pre-requisite; e.g. biathlon. Then the firearm is locked at the base for that sport.

skymike · 04-18-2016, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by OldMaid

jeanpirre's post on pg. 6 about Coach SP, I agree. YES, he is very emotional right now. He simply spoke from the heart, emotionally, about this issue. Looking for something, someone to blame.
I give him a pass.
He, like Rosie O'Donnell, Bob Costas, etc. are NOT against guns. They spew off from an emotional point like Coach SP or an elitist's point like O'Donnell and Costas.
TRUST ME TRUST ME, Ms. Skylenne and Coach SP's ex wife and kids are very safe as they can be in their worlds. I do not care how White you are or if you are Black or whatever, you are not going up to their front doors or even freely drive around their neighborhoods. They have private armed security patrols.
Remember when O'Donnell brought her gun stance, she had private armed security for her children. AND no, I do not blame her for having armed private bodyguards for her kids. Lots of nuts out there and maybe she was under threat or something at that time.

Costas the other elitists , LOL, I had posted then when he went on the air talking about his gun viewpoint, ummm, try , go on and try to enter his Park Ave/Upper Central Park/Trump apt, whatever building. You be be shot on the spot. LOL!!! Go on and try to enter the broadcasting booth , LOL. Again, shot on the spot!!

Guns. Whether you are a gun owner or not, and that is your choice to own or not, I have been told, you NEVER want to use it. You really don't.
God forbid you EVER have to use it.
I think that is pretty powerful. Think about that for a minute.

Criminal Hayes shot Smith 8 times and shot Smith's wife 2 times. The Smith kids were less than maybe 10 minutes close to being orphans.
Think about that for a minute.

This Hayes thug 's life was NOT in danger. He was in his army vehicle of a Hummer. He , nor his male passenger , was not about to be robbed, raped, beat up , kidnapped, in fear of life, etc. by Smith and wife.
Think about that for a minute.

You have here typical case of wrong hands on a gun. PROBLEM-how do you stop guns out of the wrong hands of people.
How do you stop this culture we have here of gun violence?

WEll Said, Brina

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04-16-2016, 05:05 PM	#73
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,818 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns' Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| It seems to have worked for the UK; just sayin' Ok, everyone always brings up The U.K. WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In The United Kingdom of Great Britian, guns are rampant and easy to get. THAT IS for the nobility, aristos, landed gentry, and those on the outer fringe, yet connected, to those in that U.K. class system. How can you go on hunts without your guns!! The peasants, I mean, other classes than these people are NOT allowed guns. Oh. Well, in The United States of America, our laws, etc. do not have that same class system. Be it wrong, right, whatever your thoughts and feelings are, guns are here to stay and have been since the country was founded. PROBLEM- criminal justice system. This thug/POS, now being called a gentle giant, Hayes, with a criminal background was a just a case like this waiting to happen. See The Advocate in B.R. for a write up the "gentle giant" from the babershop pals. ReallY PLU-LEEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where oh where did I hear the GENTLE GIANT bullshet from before? Oh yeah.... Problem-working harder to get guns out of those who do not need them ( the crazy mother in CT with her troubled son). Rich White woman in rich White area and rich White area of town did not need guns around her son who had issues of Asbergers and/or Autism, etc. She also never needed to show him how to shoot. Criminals do not need guns. Trying to stop the black market of guns can put some dent in it. Trying to catch those criminals/felons with guns can put some sort of dent in it. Assault weapons, you really do not need those kinds of weapons. These things, hard to do to stop weapons out the hands of the wrong people. Yeah, perfect system, only those who can have guns should have them , but who is to say WHO should have guns? Take criminals out of the equation. Lets just say no criminals can get guns. Ok for debating..sake of argument. Ok, so only law abiding citizens. Ok, well who are they? That would stop more than half of us here, realy LOL, 99.9 99999 % of us from having a gun. YES it would. Like in THE UNITED KINGDOM, ONLY the wealthy of the nobitlity/aristos/landed gentry and those on the fringe but well connected to these people can have and do have guns. Ok, I am off my soapbox. Sorry for rant. hagan714, skymike and SloMotion like this.

04-16-2016, 05:39 PM	#74
OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,818 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns' jeanpirre's post on pg. 6 about Coach SP, I agree. YES, he is very emotional right now. He simply spoke from the heart, emotionally, about this issue. Looking for something, someone to blame. I give him a pass. He, like Rosie O'Donnell, Bob Costas, etc. are NOT against guns. They spew off from an emotional point like Coach SP or an elitist's point like O'Donnell and Costas. TRUST ME TRUST ME, Ms. Skylenne and Coach SP's ex wife and kids are very safe as they can be in their worlds. I do not care how White you are or if you are Black or whatever, you are not going up to their front doors or even freely drive around their neighborhoods. They have private armed security patrols. Remember when O'Donnell brought her gun stance, she had private armed security for her children. AND no, I do not blame her for having armed private bodyguards for her kids. Lots of nuts out there and maybe she was under threat or something at that time. Costas the other elitists , LOL, I had posted then when he went on the air talking about his gun viewpoint, ummm, try , go on and try to enter his Park Ave/Upper Central Park/Trump apt, whatever building. You be be shot on the spot. LOL!!! Go on and try to enter the broadcasting booth , LOL. Again, shot on the spot!! Guns. Whether you are a gun owner or not, and that is your choice to own or not, I have been told, you NEVER want to use it. You really don't. God forbid you EVER have to use it. I think that is pretty powerful. Think about that for a minute. Criminal Hayes shot Smith 8 times and shot Smith's wife 2 times. The Smith kids were less than maybe 10 minutes close to being orphans. Think about that for a minute. This Hayes thug 's life was NOT in danger. He was in his army vehicle of a Hummer. He , nor his male passenger , was not about to be robbed, raped, beat up , kidnapped, in fear of life, etc. by Smith and wife. Think about that for a minute. You have here typical case of wrong hands on a gun. PROBLEM-how do you stop guns out of the wrong hands of people. How do you stop this culture we have here of gun violence? SloMotion likes this.

04-17-2016, 01:34 PM	#75
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,824	Re: Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns' Originally Posted by OldMaid Ok, everyone always brings up The U.K. WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... Yes it is WRONG to bring up the United Kingdom. It is a completely different place to the United States of America. The two places may have words that sound the same. And the United Kingdom certrtainly have its share of citizens that admires so much that is US of A. However when it comes to guns and ownership, there is a chasm. What the US of A does is none of nmy business. Simplistically in the UK: Any person can apply for a permit. The ownership of guns. FIREARMS, is not down to class, or nobility or wealth. It does not mean the application is granted positively. Usually any permits granted are for SHOTGUNS only for landowners, who need not be nobility or rich or of a certain class, for use on their land. The permit is for a Shotgun, not a rifle or an automatic side arm. The permit is for use only on their land. They are not allowed by law to carry it on their person to a public place or in their vehicle. When the gun is not required for use, it must be locked away. An exception is if one requires a firearm for sport. Membership of the relevant sport is a pre-requisite; e.g. biathlon. Then the firearm is locked at the base for that sport. Crusader likes this.
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04-18-2016, 09:01 PM	#76
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns' Originally Posted by OldMaid jeanpirre's post on pg. 6 about Coach SP, I agree. YES, he is very emotional right now. He simply spoke from the heart, emotionally, about this issue. Looking for something, someone to blame. I give him a pass. He, like Rosie O'Donnell, Bob Costas, etc. are NOT against guns. They spew off from an emotional point like Coach SP or an elitist's point like O'Donnell and Costas. TRUST ME TRUST ME, Ms. Skylenne and Coach SP's ex wife and kids are very safe as they can be in their worlds. I do not care how White you are or if you are Black or whatever, you are not going up to their front doors or even freely drive around their neighborhoods. They have private armed security patrols. Remember when O'Donnell brought her gun stance, she had private armed security for her children. AND no, I do not blame her for having armed private bodyguards for her kids. Lots of nuts out there and maybe she was under threat or something at that time. Costas the other elitists , LOL, I had posted then when he went on the air talking about his gun viewpoint, ummm, try , go on and try to enter his Park Ave/Upper Central Park/Trump apt, whatever building. You be be shot on the spot. LOL!!! Go on and try to enter the broadcasting booth , LOL. Again, shot on the spot!! Guns. Whether you are a gun owner or not, and that is your choice to own or not, I have been told, you NEVER want to use it. You really don't. God forbid you EVER have to use it. I think that is pretty powerful. Think about that for a minute. Criminal Hayes shot Smith 8 times and shot Smith's wife 2 times. The Smith kids were less than maybe 10 minutes close to being orphans. Think about that for a minute. This Hayes thug 's life was NOT in danger. He was in his army vehicle of a Hummer. He , nor his male passenger , was not about to be robbed, raped, beat up , kidnapped, in fear of life, etc. by Smith and wife. Think about that for a minute. You have here typical case of wrong hands on a gun. PROBLEM-how do you stop guns out of the wrong hands of people. How do you stop this culture we have here of gun violence? WEll Said, Brina

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