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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Danno True, its all opinion, but I've watched football all my life thru the 70's, 80's and 90's and its my opinion that Archie's talents would be phenomenal with today's rules favoring offenses. It is impossible to ...

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Old 04-24-2016, 06:35 PM   #41
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Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees?

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True, its all opinion, but I've watched football all my life thru the 70's, 80's and 90's and its my opinion that Archie's talents would be phenomenal with today's rules favoring offenses.

It is impossible to compare different era's, but I think Archie would probably be comparable to an Aaron Rodgers in today's NFL.

Perhaps a Steve Young with a stronger arm?

I'd love to hear some of you older guys like me compare him to a current player.
I was born in 1958 and I've went to games at Tulane Stadium. Archie ran out away from pressure. Brees would move in the pocket away from the pressure. Aaron Brooks moved in the pocket better.





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Old 04-24-2016, 06:37 PM   #42
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Re: Looks like the Norman situation opened some issues with Brees?

Will the draft get here already?
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Old 04-24-2016, 08:07 PM   #43
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Calm down

First the article is written by Mike Florio

The guy's reputation is to stir up by speculating the worst bad blood and project gloom and doom to sell papers. He has been saying Brees is washed up and greedy for years.

The Saints smartly are not showing their hand, particularly right before draft day. Drew will take less and deservedly retire a Saint (no Montana or Farve situation - they had strong backups and less ties to their city)

Nothing to see here move along

The reason we didn't sign Norman (and I am glad we didn't) was $53 million in guaranteed money - that is ridiculous. Josh is fortunately out of the division and Brandin Cooks will be happy. Between Cooks and Julio they will knock a few games off of the Panthers. Norman will now fade to obscurity (except when he is fighting with OBJ and DEZ) on a mediocre redskins team.

Drew isn't going anywhere and he isn't the greedy bastard they say he is
Well, I'm not going to say that I'm the biggest Mike Florio fan, but he is one of the few in the media that didn't rush to judgement re: the Bountygate Beatdown...

In fact, he has continued to reference it and pretty much called bullshinski on what Goodell did and how he did it; he still references it, not allowing it to die...

That said, I feel his article re: what's happened is timely and his analysis re: Brees and Tom Condon and their motives for leaking his willingness is dead on...

Among his valid points - if Brees was so interested in signing an team-first, accommodating contract, why did he not leak that or state that publicly before free agency began...

Or even last season when a left guard Clint Boling was available at a reasonable salary...

And don't think it doesn't affect the locker room - Junior Galette's tweet to Josh Norman of the Jimmy John's delivery car was a veiled suggestion to some of the resentment, valid or invalid, but very real toward's the Brees/Condon contract that limited the Saints in retaining players and acquiring needed fresh troops via free agency...

And for Florio, who has amassed a very credible media reputation to publish such a column, you can bet he verified there's definitely fire from this smoke...
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Old 04-24-2016, 08:19 PM   #44
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Well, I'm not going to say that I'm the biggest Mike Florio fan, but he is one of the few in the media that didn't rush to judgement re: the Bountygate Beatdown...

In fact, he has continued to reference it and pretty much called bullshinski on what Goodell did and how he did it; he still references it, not allowing it to die...

That said, I feel his article re: what's happened is timely and his analysis re: Brees and Tom Condon and their motives for leaking his willingness is dead on...

Among his valid points - if Brees was so interested in signing an team-first, accommodating contract, why did he not leak that or state that publicly before free agency began...

Or even last season when a left guard Clint Boling was available at a reasonable salary...

And don't think it doesn't affect the locker room - Junior Galette's tweet to Josh Norman of the Jimmy John's delivery car was a veiled suggestion to some of the resentment, valid or invalid, but very real toward's the Brees/Condon contract that limited the Saints in retaining players and acquiring needed fresh troops via free agency...

And for Florio, who has amassed a very credible media reputation to publish such a column, you can bet he verified there's definitely fire from this smoke...
He said out loud on multiple occasions last year that he would absolutely consider restructuring if it would help the team. I remember it vividly and there are threads somewhere here in the archives. Florio is just doing what sports reporters are paid to do. Generating interest and speculation.

What did Jr tweet?
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I don't want him to go to the browns.

I would ony want him traded to Denver, KC(they have no weapons though), Philadelphia, Minnesota(but they just had their turn), and Chicago. If he goes to the AFC east he's in the division with an even eliter qb and that would hurt him even though jets would be a good fit for him. How about trade for Dalton in Cincy?
Why in hell would we give a crap how well he does with anyone else? You get him as far away from the division as possible, even if it's on a crap team.
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What did Jr tweet?
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Among his valid points - if Brees was so interested in signing an team-first, accommodating contract, why did he not leak that or state that publicly before free agency began....
This to me is the real issue. hate to put any stress on Drew but if he wants another super bowl here in new orleans he has to accept one simple fact. teams do not win with one player sucking up such a large percentage of a cap.

How much is enough till winning is the main issue? not like he has not been paid already.

IMO this is were Drew's legacy will be solidified or broken with the fans of the saints.

Does he have what it takes to be Tom Brady of the New Orleans?

Win or lose Tom has solidified his history here in New England as not only a player on the field but at the negotiation table as well. He is loved for his unselfishness and understanding of the big picture. .

This is why old timers love Archie. He proved his love the fans and the city in so many ways. If Drew wants what Archie has this is the moment of truth.

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Wow. So Jr is still butt hurt. Sounds like sour grapes. He hated being shown the door so much he is still taking shots. I guess it's a longer offseason when you spend a season on IR.

**** you JR.
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Junior may be the only person in the world I really wish serious harm upon... and there are plenty of people who I don't much care for. That a**hole though.. if he stepped out into traffic and got smashed into pieces I would probably laugh.
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Why in hell would we give a crap how well he does with anyone else? You get him as far away from the division as possible, even if it's on a crap team.

Because I'm a Brees fan first and want him to get another ring before he's done, regardless of where he's at.
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