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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by burningmetal What is that comparison supposed to prove? Some of those guys are pass rushers, some are run stuffers, and some are both. Being selected to the pro bowl means very little anymore. You are still hung ...

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Old 05-02-2016, 03:39 PM   #71
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What is that comparison supposed to prove? Some of those guys are pass rushers, some are run stuffers, and some are both. Being selected to the pro bowl means very little anymore.

You are still hung up on height, which was never part of anything I had to say.
It wasn't directed at you specifically BM. Several here have said he's undersized and thats just not true at all. He's the same size as the elite DT's in the league.

I wasn't ripping on you.
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Old 05-02-2016, 03:45 PM   #72
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It wasn't directed at you specifically BM. Several here have said he's undersized and thats just not true at all. He's the same size as the elite DT's in the league.

I wasn't ripping on you.
Sorry, I misunderstood that. Figured it was for me.
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Old 05-02-2016, 03:47 PM   #73
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You clearly have no idea how to do anything but criticize other posters. You can't prove one thing I said is wrong. You only have your own opinion, which is not in line with mine. I don't mind others disagreeing with me, though I will obviously defend my points. But you? You just wait for every opportunity to say something snarky. Maybe if you spent a little more time thinking of something meaningful to say, people might respect you more.
I don't think he could do anything to regain respect at this point. He's a smart ass wannabe know it all with nothing better to do than lurk here and wait for people to say something he doesn't agree with. Then he rolls out the same old tired high and mighty holier than thou routine. He probably gets little satisfaction out of anything in his (most likely) miserable existence, so he attempts to derive meaning and purpose through his psychic accountant Internet persona.

Of course he will disagree with all of this.
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Old 05-02-2016, 03:59 PM   #74
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I don't think he could do anything to regain respect at this point. He's a smart ass wannabe know it all with nothing better to do than lurk here and wait for people to say something he doesn't agree with. Then he rolls out the same old tired high and mighty holier than thou routine. He probably gets little satisfaction out of anything in his (most likely) miserable existence, so he attempts to derive meaning and purpose through his psychic accountant Internet persona.

Of course he will disagree with all of this.
Wannabe know it all? Far from it. In fact, I readily admit that I have no way of knowing as much about the player prospects as the people who do it for a living. I even know less than lots of genuine gold-plated wannabes that pretend to be GM's. As I mentioned before, I came in here to follow the progress of the draft since the bad storms had totally wacked my satellite and the draft thread was inundated with a handful of know-it-all's that believed they knew more about drafting than the Saints front office. The constant *****ing and moaning about every pick the Saints made and how their personal pick made so much more sense was beyond irritating. And believe me, I was not the only one getting feed up with it.
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Old 05-02-2016, 04:07 PM   #75
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Wannabe know it all? Far from it. In fact, I readily admit that I have no way of knowing as much about the player prospects as the people who do it for a living. I even know less than lots of genuine gold-plated wannabes that pretend to be GM's. As I mentioned before, I came in here to follow the progress of the draft since the bad storms had totally wacked my satellite and the draft thread was inundated with a handful of know-it-all's that believed they knew more about drafting than the Saints front office. The constant *****ing and moaning about every pick the Saints made and how their personal pick made so much more sense was beyond irritating. And believe me, I was not the only one getting feed up with it.
There are only a handful of people that just complain because they didn't get their specific player they wanted. The rest of us agree, or disagree with selections for different reasons, and come here to discuss it.

But you aren't just going after that minority of people. You look for ANY opinion that you don't agree with, for any reason, and start talking ten kinds of crap on them. It's never good enough to just say "I don't agree with that" and then give a calm reasoning. Nope. You call people stupid, idiot, clueless, moron, wannabe GM, and on it goes.

And you remind everyone that you have accounting experience, which you use as a reason for thinking you know more than all of us. Yet, what you do (or used to do) has nothing to do with operating under the parameters of a salary cap. You have no respect for anyone, and your excuses for yourself are just as bad as the rest of what you say to people.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Old 05-02-2016, 05:11 PM   #76
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He will be wearing #99. Game over Falcons...
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I never said he COULDN'T stop the run.
Umm... Sure seems like that's what you were saying...

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He's not a run stuffer (not to say he can't help there any), he's more of a pass rusher.
Nobody's " butt hurt". I just asked where you got your info. I was interested in reading other sports writers or scouts opinions.
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There are only a handful of people that just complain because they didn't get their specific player they wanted. The rest of us agree, or disagree with selections for different reasons, and come here to discuss it.

But you aren't just going after that minority of people. You look for ANY opinion that you don't agree with, for any reason, and start talking ten kinds of crap on them. It's never good enough to just say "I don't agree with that" and then give a calm reasoning. Nope. You call people stupid, idiot, clueless, moron, wannabe GM, and on it goes.

And you remind everyone that you have accounting experience, which you use as a reason for thinking you know more than all of us. Yet, what you do (or used to do) has nothing to do with operating under the parameters of a salary cap. You have no respect for anyone, and your excuses for yourself are just as bad as the rest of what you say to people.
No. You don't get it. I seldom, if ever, disagree with an opinion that is stated as such. Most all of us think differently and have different opinions. I have fewer opinions than most when it comes to personnel, at least in on field potential. I do have well-founded opinions on cap management as it relates to cost accounting and resource management as that is within my field of training.

What I rail upon is the constant proclamations that the front office no clue about what they are doing and has no clue about player selection and are constantly griping about the same. There are only about four or five of the somewhat regular members that fall into this category. I say somewhat because the major presence of a couple coincides with the approach of the draft.

I don't see a problem trying to guess what the team may do in the draft. That could be a fun exercise. I guess I can also understand those compulsive enough to spend hours upon hours doing mock drafts and studying players (based upon input from writers/experts that know little more than they). But it is the insistence that the front office doesn't know as much as they and they can clearly draft better and manage a cap better that gets old. Those are the only instances that I call out and it is usually one or more of the same four or five people.

I could accept people saying they cannot understanding the thinking behind a player acquisition move or a financial decision, but to constantly state that front office is incompetent and if they would do things exactly as the self-promoting members insist, things would be so much rosier in Who Dat Nation.

Yes, you have caught my frustration and ire along these lines, but admittedly, you are not quite as unfailingly negative as a couple of the others in that regard.
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Old 05-02-2016, 06:04 PM   #79
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Umm... Sure seems like that's what you were saying...



Nobody's " butt hurt". I just asked where you got your info. I was interested in reading other sports writers or scouts opinions.
You can see what I said right there. The only way I could have worded it better, would have been to say he isn't a run stuffer (Per Se)... In my opinion.

I'm sure he can stop ball carriers that come his way, but I question whether or not he can take on double teams and clear space for others. His skill set would suggest to me, that someone else should be the space eater, so that he can use his quickness to get up field.

The butt hurt comment was meant for certain people who like to get offended when I say something that is perceived as negative, even though it's just an opinion. Not a declaration.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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No. You don't get it. I seldom, if ever, disagree with an opinion that is stated as such. Most all of us think differently and have different opinions. I have fewer opinions than most when it comes to personnel, at least in on field potential. I do have well-founded opinions on cap management as it relates to cost accounting and resource management as that is within my field of training.

What I rail upon is the constant proclamations that the front office no clue about what they are doing and has no clue about player selection and are constantly griping about the same. There are only about four or five of the somewhat regular members that fall into this category. I say somewhat because the major presence of a couple coincides with the approach of the draft.

I don't see a problem trying to guess what the team may do in the draft. That could be a fun exercise. I guess I can also understand those compulsive enough to spend hours upon hours doing mock drafts and studying players (based upon input from writers/experts that know little more than they). But it is the insistence that the front office doesn't know as much as they and they can clearly draft better and manage a cap better that gets old. Those are the only instances that I call out and it is usually one or more of the same four or five people.

I could accept people saying they cannot understanding the thinking behind a player acquisition move or a financial decision, but to constantly state that front office is incompetent and if they would do things exactly as the self-promoting members insist, things would be so much rosier in Who Dat Nation.

Yes, you have caught my frustration and ire along these lines, but admittedly, you are not quite as unfailingly negative as a couple of the others in that regard.
Everything you just stated is in stark contrast to the reality that I've witnessed with you, on numerous occasions. I specifically saw you criticizing someone who started a thread about draft prospects, a while back. You basically said that it was stupid for anyone to think that they can have any clue what the team is looking for. But all he was doing was making predictions. No harm in that.

So that shoots down where you said you don't mind if someone wants to do a mock draft.

You claim that it's only the people who say they can run the team better, who frustrate you. Yet, I clearly see you jumping on people (including me) who simply state that we would have preferred a different position be addressed.

You say I have caught your "ire", yet I have never stated that if I were running the team, things would be better. When I am critical of the organization, it's when there is a pattern of futility in regards to whatever subject I'm criticizing. and that is because, as professionals, I expect better of them.

I don't work in the NFL, of course. But whatever I do, or have done, I'm typically a fast learner. If I chose to take up a career path that led me to work in a front office, I guarantee you I would learn quickly from any mistakes. If it were my job to study hundreds of hours of tape, I would do so. So the point isn't whether myself, or others, are qualified to run an organization. It's that we expect those who are to do better. We're all held to certain standards in whatever job field we work in... Does that make sense to you?

You absolutely do not limit your criticism to just certain individuals. You don't like ANY opinion that is not in line with the team, and YOURS. No matter how calm and reasonable a person may try to be in explaining themselves, the response from you remains the same. "You don't have a clue what you're talking about. You're really dumb if you think you have any idea".

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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