Underwhelmed

Rell&Gold · 04-30-2016, 07:40 PM

Lasco= Reminds me of a Chrysler ��

skymike · 04-30-2016, 08:49 PM

I dont get drafting safeties so high. You could have Ronnie Lott & the
'89 49ers secondary, but w/o a strong front 7, it does no good.

Conversely, you a strong front 7, can turn an average secondary into ball hawks.
Unless you can get a shutdown corner, secondary, to me, is.. secondary.

I want LBs

blackangold · 04-30-2016, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

I dont get drafting safeties so high. You could have Ronnie Lott & the
'89 49ers secondary, but w/o a strong front 7, it does no good.

Conversely, you a strong front 7, can turn an average secondary into ball hawks.
Unless you can get a shutdown corner, secondary, to me, is.. secondary.

I want LBs

I do think we have our best group of LBs since 2009.

Hell the might be better then that group.

Seer1 · 04-30-2016, 09:20 PM

We didn't draft a ridiculous project in the second like SJB, we didn't waste a high draft pick on a WTF, I mean QB so I'm pretty okay. No gnawing on my computer or anything. We did okay in the free agency. We have new blood on the defensive coaching side. Hopefully that will change things from a crew that couldn't develop a digital picture on a computer. Same O and an okay D means...

say it with me now...

Championship!

Danno · 04-30-2016, 09:30 PM

Best draft since 2015.

Quality > Quantity.

hagan714 · 05-01-2016, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

I dont get drafting safeties so high. You could have Ronnie Lott & the
'89 49ers secondary, but w/o a strong front 7, it does no good.

Conversely, you a strong front 7, can turn an average secondary into ball hawks.
Unless you can get a shutdown corner, secondary, to me, is.. secondary.

I want LBs

I am still trying to wrap my head around this move myself. The silly oh he mailed me tapes was sweet does not fly. he mailed them over night to make millions . sounds like a solid investment plan. Sorry SP he mailed them to all 32 teams on the same day. you got spammed.

CheramieIII · 05-01-2016, 07:13 AM

Like I said before we picked the best DT, WR and Safety in the draft another DT, another 2 WR's, Lasco at RB, Turner, another tackle and several centers and guards for the O-Line and throw in the LB special teamer from Bama and I think we had a ROCK SOLID DRAFT and one we should all be proud of because the front office addressed EVERYTHING they had to and then some.

burningmetal · 05-01-2016, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold

First off there's PLENTY off first round players that don't have all 32 come and physically watch, but could be of interest later and could communicate email phone that's just 17 that showed no telling how many actually reached out

Dude, let it go. I gave no specific percentage of players that get looked at by all 32 teams. I simply said that it happens. So the fact that this particular player had 17 teams look at him, doesn't tell me a whole lot. Scouts drool over "raw" physical tools far more than they do with just plain ol' production. Just because they showed interest doesn't mean he's all that. It's really pretty simple, the point I'm making.

I'm not going out on a limb and predicting his future. I just don't like the odds. I'm wired, philosophically, with more old school opinions. I don't like these buzzing, trendy prospects that show up right at the end. Sometimes you catch a break, and it works out. But not often.

burningmetal · 05-01-2016, 07:26 AM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

Like I said before we picked the best DT, WR and Safety in the draft another DT, another 2 WR's, Lasco at RB, Turner, another tackle and several centers and guards for the O-Line and throw in the LB special teamer from Bama and I think we had a ROCK SOLID DRAFT and one we should all be proud of because the front office addressed EVERYTHING they had to and then some.

The rest of those guys you mentioned were UDFA's. I wouldn't say they addressed all their needs. Hopefully, one of the UDFA's surprises us, but we're a long way from having any clue how that's going to work out.

We got the best WR in the draft, you say? I sure can't say I agree with that.

CheramieIII · 05-01-2016, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

The rest of those guys you mentioned were UDFA's. I wouldn't say they addressed all their needs. Hopefully, one of the UDFA's surprises us, but we're a long way from having any clue how that's going to work out.

We got the best WR in the draft, you say? I sure can't say I agree with that.

What position didn't they address? IMO Thomas was the best receiver out of the draft, size, not afraid to go over the middle and blood line say a lot about him.

Read up on Turner and Allen. These 2 should've gone in the 4th or 5th round and will make the team and one of them may even start of course it's just my opinion but of course yours is just an opinion also. WHO DAT!

04-30-2016, 07:40 PM	#91
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04-30-2016, 08:49 PM	#92
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Underwhelmed I dont get drafting safeties so high. You could have Ronnie Lott & the '89 49ers secondary, but w/o a strong front 7, it does no good. Conversely, you a strong front 7, can turn an average secondary into ball hawks. Unless you can get a shutdown corner, secondary, to me, is.. secondary. I want LBs hagan714 likes this.

04-30-2016, 09:02 PM	#93
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by skymike I dont get drafting safeties so high. You could have Ronnie Lott & the '89 49ers secondary, but w/o a strong front 7, it does no good. Conversely, you a strong front 7, can turn an average secondary into ball hawks. Unless you can get a shutdown corner, secondary, to me, is.. secondary. I want LBs I do think we have our best group of LBs since 2009. Hell the might be better then that group. skymike and Rell&Gold like this.

04-30-2016, 09:20 PM	#94
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Underwhelmed We didn't draft a ridiculous project in the second like SJB, we didn't waste a high draft pick on a WTF, I mean QB so I'm pretty okay. No gnawing on my computer or anything. We did okay in the free agency. We have new blood on the defensive coaching side. Hopefully that will change things from a crew that couldn't develop a digital picture on a computer. Same O and an okay D means... say it with me now... Championship! Danno, Utah_Saint, Rell&Gold and 1 others like this.

04-30-2016, 09:30 PM	#95
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Underwhelmed Best draft since 2015. Quality > Quantity.

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05-01-2016, 04:10 AM	#96
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by skymike I dont get drafting safeties so high. You could have Ronnie Lott & the '89 49ers secondary, but w/o a strong front 7, it does no good. Conversely, you a strong front 7, can turn an average secondary into ball hawks. Unless you can get a shutdown corner, secondary, to me, is.. secondary. I want LBs I am still trying to wrap my head around this move myself. The silly oh he mailed me tapes was sweet does not fly. he mailed them over night to make millions . sounds like a solid investment plan. Sorry SP he mailed them to all 32 teams on the same day. you got spammed.

05-01-2016, 07:13 AM	#97
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Underwhelmed Like I said before we picked the best DT, WR and Safety in the draft another DT, another 2 WR's, Lasco at RB, Turner, another tackle and several centers and guards for the O-Line and throw in the LB special teamer from Bama and I think we had a ROCK SOLID DRAFT and one we should all be proud of because the front office addressed EVERYTHING they had to and then some. skymike likes this.

05-01-2016, 07:22 AM	#98
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by Rell&Gold First off there's PLENTY off first round players that don't have all 32 come and physically watch, but could be of interest later and could communicate email phone that's just 17 that showed no telling how many actually reached out Dude, let it go. I gave no specific percentage of players that get looked at by all 32 teams. I simply said that it happens. So the fact that this particular player had 17 teams look at him, doesn't tell me a whole lot. Scouts drool over "raw" physical tools far more than they do with just plain ol' production. Just because they showed interest doesn't mean he's all that. It's really pretty simple, the point I'm making. I'm not going out on a limb and predicting his future. I just don't like the odds. I'm wired, philosophically, with more old school opinions. I don't like these buzzing, trendy prospects that show up right at the end. Sometimes you catch a break, and it works out. But not often.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

05-01-2016, 07:26 AM	#99
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by CheramieIII Like I said before we picked the best DT, WR and Safety in the draft another DT, another 2 WR's, Lasco at RB, Turner, another tackle and several centers and guards for the O-Line and throw in the LB special teamer from Bama and I think we had a ROCK SOLID DRAFT and one we should all be proud of because the front office addressed EVERYTHING they had to and then some. The rest of those guys you mentioned were UDFA's. I wouldn't say they addressed all their needs. Hopefully, one of the UDFA's surprises us, but we're a long way from having any clue how that's going to work out. We got the best WR in the draft, you say? I sure can't say I agree with that.

05-01-2016, 07:46 AM	#100
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by burningmetal The rest of those guys you mentioned were UDFA's. I wouldn't say they addressed all their needs. Hopefully, one of the UDFA's surprises us, but we're a long way from having any clue how that's going to work out. We got the best WR in the draft, you say? I sure can't say I agree with that. What position didn't they address? IMO Thomas was the best receiver out of the draft, size, not afraid to go over the middle and blood line say a lot about him. Read up on Turner and Allen. These 2 should've gone in the 4th or 5th round and will make the team and one of them may even start of course it's just my opinion but of course yours is just an opinion also. WHO DAT! MarchingOn likes this.

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