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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by |Mitch| I'm guessing an Evans re-signing is imminent This wouldn't surprise me at all. He now knows his market value. An aging Evans would be far better in my book than raw rookie any day....

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Old 04-30-2016, 02:14 PM   #11
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I'm guessing an Evans re-signing is imminent
This wouldn't surprise me at all. He now knows his market value. An aging Evans would be far better in my book than raw rookie any day.
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Old 04-30-2016, 02:16 PM   #12
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Why draft a guard just to draft a guard? Payton said after the second round that he was disappointed they hadn't added a guard yet. That tells me that they didn't have a guard that they felt was worthy on their board when their pick arrived. I would hope they would pick BPA over reaching.
I didn't say draft one just to draft one. There are quality guards at this point of the draft. It's one of the few positions that you can find value late in the draft. This team desperately needs guard help. They didn't select the best player available, they selected a project, whom they hope they can coach up. This team has made a ton of mistakes in recent years, trying the project route.
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Old 04-30-2016, 02:21 PM   #13
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Yeah i reckon you now get the Brees extension and Evans and Kevin Williams brought back in. Both would make sense another id like to kick the tires on is Sammie Lee Hill NT(former Titan/Lions)
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Typically fans being underwhelmed means great drafts. So that's awesome.
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Old 04-30-2016, 02:35 PM   #15
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I didn't say draft one just to draft one. There are quality guards at this point of the draft. It's one of the few positions that you can find value late in the draft. This team desperately needs guard help. They didn't select the best player available, they selected a project, whom they hope they can coach up. This team has made a ton of mistakes in recent years, trying the project route.
How do you know he is a "project"? Because you heard some media type say so? How can you know that he isn't far closer than some believe. If he is so unknown how could people know he is a project. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the main objective of a DE to get to the QB? How much coaching up does that take if you are already proficient at it?
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Typically fans being underwhelmed means great drafts. So that's awesome.
Yup. Underwhelmed can also mean lack of understanding which is normal since none us are "in the know".
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Yeah i reckon you now get the Brees extension and Evans and Kevin Williams brought back in. Both would make sense another id like to kick the tires on is Sammie Lee Hill NT(former Titan/Lions)
This is true. Another reason to hold off on a Brees extension until after the draft.
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Old 04-30-2016, 02:40 PM   #18
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I dont think CB was a big a need as the media do. Obviously we need a healthy Lewis but PJ Williams will be back this year and he was ranked as a late 1st rounder by talent. Lewis-Breaux-Williams-Swan and Bell can play there too.

I dont think the LB were there in depth this year. Alot of 220lbers

I think its Anthony-Laurinaitis-Robertson this year.
You cant fix all the holes in one draft unless youve got the trade bait like the Browns and Titans

Lets be honest
-----Robertson-Laurinaitis-Anthony
Jordan--Rankins--Fairley--Richardson

Looks far better than what was on the field last year
Im fine with all of that except Richardson... Richardson is a practice squad player at best, if he turns out to be the starter again I won't have much hope for the D.
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Old 04-30-2016, 02:47 PM   #19
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How do you know he is a "project"? Because you heard some media type say so? How can you know that he isn't far closer than some believe. If he is so unknown how could people know he is a project. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the main objective of a DE to get to the QB? How much coaching up does that take if you are already proficient at it?
Because he's from a college in canada, and there is nothing he has ever faced in his life that is close to what he will face now? Could that make him a project, maybe? And since when did calling someone a project mean that no one could know who he is? You think that's what constitutes a project? C'mon man, you can't be serious on that one.

And who said he was proficient at getting to the QB? He had five sacks last year, from what I can find on him. Against THAT competition.

He is absolutely, 100% a project, and if you try to argue any other way you are clearly trolling.

They are going with his athleticism, and banking on the hope that they can develop him. Maybe they will. I would have much preferred to see them take a guy like Connor McGovern, instead of a project. Why? Because guard is a need that is beyond pressing.
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Old 04-30-2016, 02:50 PM   #20
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Typically fans being underwhelmed means great drafts. So that's awesome.
Not with this organization. Not in a few years. I'm ok with this draft overall, but that last pick... Was questionable.
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