Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped

MatthewT · 06-02-2016, 05:04 AM

None of us will ever know the real truth, but something hasn't been right since day 1. Gary Gibbs, Gregg Williams, Steve Spagnuolo, Rob Ryan, and now Dennis Allen. We are only talking since 2006, that is not a long time. What is really going on?

jeanpierre · 06-02-2016, 07:31 AM

Hey, look, it is what it is and I'm not surprised...

The fact that Payton rolled out a defense last year with two defensive coordinators speaks volumes - that was horrible, horrible management...

One vision, one direction, one leader - what Payton did was wrong...

Payton is the greatest offensive mind/playcaller since Bill Walsh - bar none...

But this is why you need a strong general manager, not to rubber stamp everything, but to reign in the coach from his own dastardly genius...

And it should tell you something that Romeo had misgivens about coming to work for Sean Payton...

As I said earlier, I don't blame Ryan for being hurt, he just shouldn't have aired it out there unless he felt he felt the risk of losing job opportunities was greater than staying silent and being loyal, taking the hit full...

CheramieIII · 06-02-2016, 08:44 AM

Payton needs to let the DC do his job and when he screws up correct the screw up not the entire defense. Consistency wins!

vpheughan · 06-02-2016, 10:35 AM

What happened in Oakland? That's easy, Sean Payton hates Oakland too!

jnormand · 06-02-2016, 11:20 AM

I'm not buying it. Sorry, but RR got micromanaged because his defense tanked in 2014. Then in 2015 he tanked again. His players were disorganized and confused and his scheme wasn't working. His players weren't held accountable and he was too busy being buddies with them instead of being the fiery leader he was hired to be.

I don't care if a player like Hicks, who was traded because he was giving a half assed effort, comes to RRs defense. RR wasn't being a leader. He was being a buddy.

K Major · 06-02-2016, 11:57 AM

A LOT of blustering and excuse making by the big Lebowski. Utter lack of control. The Ryan's brothers have one speed & it is to burn bridges.

It's too bad the Bills aren't on the 2016 Saints schedule.

WillSaints81 · 06-02-2016, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Vilma did not play in '13, and he was well on the down swing in '11 and '12. The signal his career was over starte two years prior to '13 as he didn't play full seasons and had half the tackles he previously did
Harper wasn't a loss.
I would agree that Jenkins was only because his best season for the Saints was his final season. You could see he had finally put it together. I didn't like letting him go.
Greer was a huge loss, but he didn't take us from 4rth to 32. That loss wasn't on anyone, however, it was an injury.

Finally, What happened in Oakland?

Oakland was a bad team. Their offense was pathetic. I'm not defending Ryan. But we need to quit acting like we are so perfect.

ScottF · 06-02-2016, 01:29 PM

and North Korea just endorsed Trump

RaginCajun83 · 06-02-2016, 01:30 PM

bad mouthing your ex-employer shows what character these two clowns process, hasn't Hicks been cut by NE? and I wouldn't be surprised Rob lasts only a year in Buffalo because Rex will be gone after this season

saintfan · 06-02-2016, 03:13 PM

06-02-2016, 05:04 AM	#11
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,705	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped None of us will ever know the real truth, but something hasn't been right since day 1. Gary Gibbs, Gregg Williams, Steve Spagnuolo, Rob Ryan, and now Dennis Allen. We are only talking since 2006, that is not a long time. What is really going on? neugey, Rugby Saint II and Seer1 like this.

06-02-2016, 07:31 AM	#12
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped Hey, look, it is what it is and I'm not surprised... The fact that Payton rolled out a defense last year with two defensive coordinators speaks volumes - that was horrible, horrible management... One vision, one direction, one leader - what Payton did was wrong... Payton is the greatest offensive mind/playcaller since Bill Walsh - bar none... *But this is why you need a strong* general manager**, not to rubber stamp everything, but to reign in the coach from his own dastardly genius... And it should tell you something that Romeo had misgivens about coming to work for Sean Payton... As I said earlier, I don't blame Ryan for being hurt, he just shouldn't have aired it out there unless he felt he felt the risk of losing job opportunities was greater than staying silent and being loyal, taking the hit full... SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II, K Major and 2 others like this.
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06-02-2016, 08:44 AM	#13
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,457 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped Payton needs to let the DC do his job and when he screws up correct the screw up not the entire defense. Consistency wins! SmashMouth, halloween 65 and WhoDatFan26 like this.

06-02-2016, 10:35 AM	#14
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jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,530	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped I'm not buying it. Sorry, but RR got micromanaged because his defense tanked in 2014. Then in 2015 he tanked again. His players were disorganized and confused and his scheme wasn't working. His players weren't held accountable and he was too busy being buddies with them instead of being the fiery leader he was hired to be. I don't care if a player like Hicks, who was traded because he was giving a half assed effort, comes to RRs defense. RR wasn't being a leader. He was being a buddy. AsylumGuido likes this.

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06-02-2016, 11:57 AM	#16
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,033 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped A LOT of blustering and excuse making by the big Lebowski. Utter lack of control. The Ryan's brothers have one speed & it is to burn bridges. It's too bad the Bills aren't on the 2016 Saints schedule. AsylumGuido likes this.

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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped Originally Posted by spkb25 Vilma did not play in '13, and he was well on the down swing in '11 and '12. The signal his career was over starte two years prior to '13 as he didn't play full seasons and had half the tackles he previously did Harper wasn't a loss. I would agree that Jenkins was only because his best season for the Saints was his final season. You could see he had finally put it together. I didn't like letting him go. Greer was a huge loss, but he didn't take us from 4rth to 32. That loss wasn't on anyone, however, it was an injury. Finally, What happened in Oakland? Oakland was a bad team. Their offense was pathetic. I'm not defending Ryan. But we need to quit acting like we are so perfect.

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