New Orleans Saints' biggest steal, reach in the 2016 NFL draft

07-05-2016, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Not everyone had him as the #1 DT in the draft. My fear is simple: he could be the media darling that got all the hype after the season was over not while he was on the field.

Doesn't matter. To call him a reach is ridiculous.

hagan714 · 07-06-2016, 07:46 AM

its just an opinion that all as i said. he gets a lets sit back and see rating in my book.

as far as ridiculous? time will tell and i stand by what i said during the draft

with that said i will be cheering the draft on to make me eat crow.

K Major · 07-06-2016, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Not everyone had him as the #1 DT in the draft.

Right after the draft, I went back and watched quite a bit of Rankins tape @ Louisville. NEVER once did I see him get shut down. Not once. The guy consistently beats the man in front of him (see Senior bowl before the knee injury). He has shown just about every thing you can (combine, Senior bowl, & more importantly game footage) see as a top notch interior D tackle.

You could be right that everyone did not see him as the #1 DT but I'm sure he was high on a lot of NFL teams draft board based on team need. Rankins could easily become an animal on that D line.

I don't see him as a reach at all.

CharityMike · 07-06-2016, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

I didn't have him as the #1 DT in the draft.

Fixed that for you

Rugby Saint II · 07-06-2016, 11:30 AM

The only reach I see might have been Onyemata......but not much. The sky is the limit for that ultra talented young man. If he gets in some snaps and hones his skills this year he'll be a valuable asset next year. What else do you want from a fourth round draft choice? Oh, and Lasco was a steal!!! he could lead this team in jersey sales for years.

hagan714 · 07-08-2016, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Right after the draft, I went back and watched quite a bit of Rankins tape @ Louisville. NEVER once did I see him get shut down. Not once. The guy consistently beats the man in front of him (see Senior bowl before the knee injury). He has shown just about every thing you can (combine, Senior bowl, & more importantly game footage) see as a top notch interior D tackle.

You could be right that everyone did not see him as the #1 DT but I'm sure he was high on a lot of NFL teams draft board based on team need. Rankins could easily become an animal on that D line.

I don't see him as a reach at all.

watch him struggle to shed blocks in games against Florida State and Texas A&M.

Worse case? Another Sedrick Ellis? Do not see see it
Best case? Another Arron Donald? Do not see it
Media favorite comparison? Another Kawann Short? I do not see it.
So were will he end up? this is what makes pre draft to the real world so much fun.

Will he be good? Probably
Will he be great? doubt it
Will he be all pro? seriously doubt it

I just do not see him as a corner stone of defense. A good piece for the sum of whole.

So he was a reach IMO at 12.

Draft ranking? mid 20s or lower. When the season ended he was a solid round two guy by most. Still think Kenny Clark was better player during the season than Rankings and if you want a quick big guy he was a safer pick.

Nick Fairley will make or break Rankings. Unless a quality starting NT drops from the sky. Do not put Rankings on the opposite side of Jordan. Sandwich him between Fairley and Jordan. That is what I am expecting

Rankings reminds me of Peat -
lacks a ‘mean streak’
standard run of the Mill ‘high floor low ceiling’ prospect.

That was basically how I saw this kid.

But he is saints now so saddle up the doggies and lets see what you got big boy.

WhoDatFan26 · 07-09-2016, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

watch him struggle to shed blocks in games against Florida State and Texas A&M.

Worse case? Another Sedrick Ellis? Do not see see it
Best case? Another Arron Donald? Do not see it
Media favorite comparison? Another Kawann Short? I do not see it.
So were will he end up? this is what makes pre draft to the real world so much fun.

Will he be good? Probably
Will he be great? doubt it
Will he be all pro? seriously doubt it

I just do not see him as a corner stone of defense. A good piece for the sum of whole.

So he was a reach IMO at 12.

Draft ranking? mid 20s or lower. When the season ended he was a solid round two guy by most. Still think Kenny Clark was better player during the season than Rankings and if you want a quick big guy he was a safer pick.

Nick Fairley will make or break Rankings. Unless a quality starting NT drops from the sky. Do not put Rankings on the opposite side of Jordan. Sandwich him between Fairley and Jordan. That is what I am expecting

Rankings reminds me of Peat -
lacks a ‘mean streak’
standard run of the Mill ‘high floor low ceiling’ prospect.

That was basically how I saw this kid.

But he is saints now so saddle up the doggies and lets see what you got big boy.

Sometimes, a DT doesn't shed blocks due to sheme and the need to tie up blockers to allow the LB's to flow to the ball.

07-05-2016, 06:05 PM	#11
Threaded by Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by hagan714 Not everyone had him as the #1 DT in the draft. My fear is simple: he could be the media darling that got all the hype after the season was over not while he was on the field. Doesn't matter. To call him a reach is ridiculous. CharityMike likes this.
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07-06-2016, 07:46 AM	#12
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: New Orleans Saints' biggest steal, reach in the 2016 NFL draft its just an opinion that all as i said. he gets a lets sit back and see rating in my book. as far as ridiculous? time will tell and i stand by what i said during the draft with that said i will be cheering the draft on to make me eat crow. Rugby Saint II likes this.

07-06-2016, 08:27 AM	#13
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints' biggest steal, reach in the 2016 NFL draft Originally Posted by hagan714 Not everyone had him as the #1 DT in the draft. Right after the draft, I went back and watched quite a bit of Rankins tape @ Louisville. NEVER once did I see him get shut down. Not once. The guy consistently beats the man in front of him (see Senior bowl before the knee injury). He has shown just about every thing you can (combine, Senior bowl, & more importantly game footage) see as a top notch interior D tackle. You could be right that everyone did not see him as the #1 DT but I'm sure he was high on a lot of NFL teams draft board based on team need. Rankins could easily become an animal on that D line. I don't see him as a reach at all. hagan714, SmashMouth and WhoDatFan26 like this.
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CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: New Orleans Saints' biggest steal, reach in the 2016 NFL draft Originally Posted by hagan714 I didn't have him as the #1 DT in the draft. Fixed that for you

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07-08-2016, 10:37 PM	#16
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: New Orleans Saints' biggest steal, reach in the 2016 NFL draft Originally Posted by K Major Right after the draft, I went back and watched quite a bit of Rankins tape @ Louisville. NEVER once did I see him get shut down. Not once. The guy consistently beats the man in front of him (see Senior bowl before the knee injury). He has shown just about every thing you can (combine, Senior bowl, & more importantly game footage) see as a top notch interior D tackle. You could be right that everyone did not see him as the #1 DT but I'm sure he was high on a lot of NFL teams draft board based on team need. Rankins could easily become an animal on that D line. I don't see him as a reach at all. watch him struggle to shed blocks in games against Florida State and Texas A&M. Worse case? Another Sedrick Ellis? Do not see see it Best case? Another Arron Donald? Do not see it Media favorite comparison? Another Kawann Short? I do not see it. So were will he end up? this is what makes pre draft to the real world so much fun. Will he be good? Probably Will he be great? doubt it Will he be all pro? seriously doubt it I just do not see him as a corner stone of defense. A good piece for the sum of whole. So he was a reach IMO at 12. Draft ranking? mid 20s or lower. When the season ended he was a solid round two guy by most. Still think Kenny Clark was better player during the season than Rankings and if you want a quick big guy he was a safer pick. Nick Fairley will make or break Rankings. Unless a quality starting NT drops from the sky. Do not put Rankings on the opposite side of Jordan. Sandwich him between Fairley and Jordan. That is what I am expecting Rankings reminds me of Peat - lacks a ‘mean streak’ standard run of the Mill ‘high floor low ceiling’ prospect. That was basically how I saw this kid. But he is saints now so saddle up the doggies and lets see what you got big boy.
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07-09-2016, 04:54 PM	#17
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: New Orleans Saints' biggest steal, reach in the 2016 NFL draft Originally Posted by hagan714 watch him struggle to shed blocks in games against Florida State and Texas A&M. Worse case? Another Sedrick Ellis? Do not see see it Best case? Another Arron Donald? Do not see it Media favorite comparison? Another Kawann Short? I do not see it. So were will he end up? this is what makes pre draft to the real world so much fun. Will he be good? Probably Will he be great? doubt it Will he be all pro? seriously doubt it I just do not see him as a corner stone of defense. A good piece for the sum of whole. So he was a reach IMO at 12. Draft ranking? mid 20s or lower. When the season ended he was a solid round two guy by most. Still think Kenny Clark was better player during the season than Rankings and if you want a quick big guy he was a safer pick. Nick Fairley will make or break Rankings. Unless a quality starting NT drops from the sky. Do not put Rankings on the opposite side of Jordan. Sandwich him between Fairley and Jordan. That is what I am expecting Rankings reminds me of Peat - lacks a ‘mean streak’ standard run of the Mill ‘high floor low ceiling’ prospect. That was basically how I saw this kid. But he is saints now so saddle up the doggies and lets see what you got big boy. Sometimes, a DT doesn't shed blocks due to sheme and the need to tie up blockers to allow the LB's to flow to the ball.
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