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saintswhodi 03-07-2005 02:40 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
Quote:

Former Seahawk Itula Mili, one of several tight ends the Bucs are talking to, visited with the Saints.
-- Tampa Tribune

From NFL Truth and rumors on ESPN.

[Edited on 7/3/2005 by saintswhodi]

BreesFN9 03-07-2005 02:49 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
I think that after we let go Pathon who was more solid then both of those at his position, The writing was on the wall. I know Pathon was a salary cap issue and the fact that Stallworth stepped into his role. With a few good TE availabe you could see this being the next logical move. They had their chance and really didn\'t do much with it. Now it\'s time for someone else to step in and step up.

saintswhodi 03-07-2005 02:51 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
I like Mili. He seemed pretty good for the Hawks. He started over first round pick Jeremy Stevens so he was doing some thing right. And he is still pretty young I believe and I am all for that.

GoldenTomb 03-07-2005 02:56 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
Doesn\'t really matter how they feel. The NFL is a business and it seems like the Saints are starting to treat it like one. When you don\'t produce you get replaced with someone who can. Now if they could only address another position on offense... ;)

BreesFN9 03-07-2005 02:57 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
To be honest I Don\'t know too much about him? I know that change at that position can\'t be a bad thing. I was really dissapointed in BOO Williams performance last year as were most from the sounds of things. Any idea on B Frank\'s situation in GB? I heard his name come up a few times before and then it died down. GB looks like they could be going into a transiton phase and I wonder how that would afffect the re signing of Frank\'s? Also with the FAVRE decision still being up in the air?

saintswhodi 03-07-2005 02:57 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
GT, :no_no: ;)

JKool 03-07-2005 03:41 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
Mili:
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Itula Mili is deceptively quick and a rough and tough receiver, blocker, and presence in the offensive set. Despite not being a threat downfield, Mili has displayed the ability to recognize options in the short to intermiadiete passing set, while maintaining the toughness to catch the ball across the middle, in traffic. He rarely makes a mistake in his routes and is dependable, though he is far from an elusive target. Overall blocking skills have improved with experience, Mili remains a far better receiver than blocker. Despite shortcomings in the blocking scheme, he will be far from embarrassed or blown away by the opposition and sheds blocks effortlessly to get into the pass pattern. Knee injuries have been an issue throughout his career, but Mili has shown the toughness to play through injury and pain.
Link: http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=196&p=8&c=1&nid=1160492

saintswhodi 03-07-2005 03:47 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
Doesn\'t sound too bad. Not too bad at all.

I don\'t know about Franks SFN. He seems to only play in the red zone these days, but not as effectively as earlier in his career. Mili may be a better option, and less expensive.

FireVenturi 03-07-2005 03:51 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
Quote:

Doesn\'t really matter how they feel. The NFL is a business and it seems like the Saints are starting to treat it like one. When you don\'t produce you get replaced with someone who can. Now if they could only address another position on offense... ;)
I know, we really need to bring in a true RT.

shadowdrinker 03-07-2005 03:53 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
I think just the fact that he plays tough is a huge upgrade over the guys we have now...

With the Additions to the O line..and this guy possibly signing...Deuce must be smiling right about now...

1600+ yards for our running game isn\'t too far out of the question ..especially if the F.O. continues to astound us..and make more true impact signings..

I never thought I would say this...

We are begining to have a very good Off Season..

JKool 03-07-2005 04:05 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
I know that FV was joking, but I think he is absolutely right. I feel like we\'re being sold on Mayberry at RT. I would like to see us sign a real RT and have Mayberry at RG! Damn, that would be FINE!

WhoDat 03-07-2005 04:39 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
You know, Boo\'s year last year wasn\'t terrible. It seems so bad only b/c expectations were that he was going to be a Pro Bowler based on what he did in the last 6 or so games of 2003. That\'s like saying that the Saints will have a top 5 defense next year based on what they did in the last 4 games. C\'mon.

Boo was 18th in the NFL as a TE. Definitely not good, but that puts him in the \"average\" range. Considering most of the guys above him weren\'t on teams where there was really any second threat at TE, like Boo has in Conwell, I can\'t say that his year was all that bad. Especially when considering the offensive ineptitude. I\'d like Boo to stick around, even if it\'s as the #2 TE. I think the guy is still deserving of a shot to prove himself. I think he can, though he ultimately may never step it up. It\'s kind of do or die time for the guy though...

shadowdrinker 03-07-2005 04:44 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
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You know, Boo\'s year last year wasn\'t terrible. It seems so bad only b/c expectations were that he was going to be a Pro Bowler based on what he did in the last 6 or so games of 2003. That\'s like saying that the Saints will have a top 5 defense next year based on what they did in the last 4 games. C\'mon.

Boo was 18th in the NFL as a TE. Definitely not good, but that puts him in the \"average\" range. Considering most of the guys above him weren\'t on teams where there was really any second threat at TE, like Boo has in Conwell, I can\'t say that his year was all that bad. Especially when considering the offensive ineptitude. I\'d like Boo to stick around, even if it\'s as the #2 TE. I think the guy is still deserving of a shot to prove himself. I think he can, though he ultimately may never step it up. It\'s kind of do or die time for the guy though...

That\'s true...he has shwon, in the past, flashes of brilliance..and he is still a young guy...But..Mili is going to be great insurance!

shadowdrinker 03-07-2005 04:47 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
Either way..If we sign Mili, we will get good production out of our Te\'s..

And that\'s HUGE when you think of how important the Te position is to a West Coast Offense...It\'s the core of the Offense...

If this deal goes through...we are looking good , real good

JKool 03-07-2005 04:49 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
I think with Conwell developing his blocking skills, there is reason to keep 4 TEs. Mili or Boo starts, with the other as the second TE. Conwell and Hall as blockers. Conwell still provides a possible passing threat in short yardage situations.

I haven\'t done all the math on that, but it sounds ok to me.

Perhaps our focus on the ground game this season will feature a three TE formation?

However, the productivity of our TE will be in part determined by whether or not Mayberry can really play RT (as that will determine the number of plays the TE can be sent on longer routes and whether or not the TE is required for additional pass protection). I still think that is a bit of a stretch.

LKelley67 03-07-2005 05:45 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
boo 18th? in what, catches? what if ya subtract the many drops? more like 27th or something? he is still learning what a block is too. i spose i could even take it if not for the outrageous histrionics when he makes a catch for 4 yards and not even a first down. conwell must be some kinda locker room guru god presence to keep him too. he can still block but looks like a has been when trying to make a catch. i\'m all for this guy even not knowing much about him. gotta love the name too.

JKool 03-07-2005 06:10 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
Yeah, when can we start calling him Vanilli?

LKelley67 03-07-2005 06:11 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
...as long as he doesn\'t fake his playing ;)

papz 03-07-2005 09:48 PM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
Let me count the amount of TE\'s we have... nevermind, IT\'S TOO MANY! :casstet:

WhoDat 03-08-2005 08:17 AM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
What happened to Hilton?

Euphoria 03-08-2005 08:25 AM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
Boo is the one TE you keep. Lets hope making some changes all around him and scaring him a bit makes things better. This guy sacrafices his body and catches more like a WR than a TE, when he makes the catch.

saintswhodi 03-08-2005 09:31 AM

I wonder how Boo and Conwell feel
 
Boo reminds me of Henry Lusk. Anybody remember him? I remember a potna and me when we had him used to rave about Lusk and how good he was gonna be cause he\'d show flashes, but it never panned out. Then he went to Arizona I believe and disappeared. Boo will always show flashes, but i have my doubts of him ever putting it altogether.


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