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CheramieIII 07-24-2016 07:55 AM

Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense
 
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SaintFanInATLHELL 07-24-2016 12:13 PM

Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense
 
And water is wet, Captain Obvious Holder...

I will be so glad when next week comes and there are actual players and actual plays to talk and write about instead of stating the... obvious.

SFIAH

Rell&Gold 07-24-2016 12:39 PM

Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense
 
Thats new news to NOBODY

Danno 07-24-2016 02:37 PM

Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense
 
The majority of articles written in local papers this time of year are directed at the casual fan, not the obsessed fans that live on message boards.

Its a great re-cap for the fan who only pays attention 6 to 8 months out of the year.

Most Saints fans couldn't name 3 new players on this year's team.

Holder didn't write this for us guys.

vpheughan 07-25-2016 10:29 AM

Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense
 
It fails to address exactly how long a piece of string is and how high is up!

spkb25 07-25-2016 11:12 AM

Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense
 
Best Line "Dumping Brandon Browner instantly improves the Saints defense in the secondary. Anyone with a pulse can recognize that."

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-25-2016 12:43 PM

Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 709496)
The majority of articles written in local papers this time of year are directed at the casual fan, not the obsessed fans that live on message boards.

Its a great re-cap for the fan who only pays attention 6 to 8 months out of the year.

Most Saints fans couldn't name 3 new players on this year's team.

Holder didn't write this for us guys.

That notwithstanding, it's still not real smart to title it something obvious. It's like having an article titled "Saints win game because they scored more points." It's obvious on its face.

Just a simple title of "X ways the Saints defense will improve in 2016..." would have covered the topic.

SFIAH

The Dude 07-25-2016 12:58 PM

Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense
 
They will also be sunk if their defense takes two steps up and our offense takes one step back.

SaintFanInATLHELL 07-25-2016 01:58 PM

Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 709558)
They will also be sunk if their defense takes two steps up and our offense takes one step back.

Not sure that's the case. We have the 2010 season as a sample. The offense dropped from 1st to 11th in scoring from 2009 while the defense rose from the low 20s to the top 10. Team ended up 11-5, which while ending up a small step back, certainly wasn't a complete disaster.

Also there's no substantive evidence that the offense is going to be significantly different that it's been in the past. As a scientist I'm a strong believer that past performance mitigated by changes are a strong predictor of future expectations. Considering the performance of the offense last year, coupled with what are effectively minor changes in the offseason, there's no reason to believe that the offense will be much different than it's been in the past. Frankly if the offense was really going to take a step back it should have been last year when Graham was traded. He was a major cog in how the offense operated. But it didn't miss a beat.

SFIAH

halloween 65 07-25-2016 02:13 PM

Re: Saints will be sunk again without an improved defense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 709561)
Not sure that's the case. We have the 2010 season as a sample. The offense dropped from 1st to 11th in scoring from 2009 while the defense rose from the low 20s to the top 10. Team ended up 11-5, which while ending up a small step back, certainly wasn't a complete disaster.

Also there's no substantive evidence that the offense is going to be significantly different that it's been in the past. As a scientist I'm a strong believer that past performance mitigated by changes are a strong predictor of future expectations. Considering the performance of the offense last year, coupled with what are effectively minor changes in the offseason, there's no reason to believe that the offense will be much different than it's been in the past. Frankly if the offense was really going to take a step back it should have been last year when Graham was traded. He was a major cog in how the offense operated. But it didn't miss a beat.

SFIAH

I agree with every word. It goes to show how important a D really is and how Graham was just a chess piece in Paytons O.


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