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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster. Has Payton lost that fire?...

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Old 08-27-2016, 04:01 PM   #61
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Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster.

Has Payton lost that fire?
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Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster.

Has Payton lost that fire?
I think he lost it after 2013. I just don't see the passion and fight in him anymore.

I believe Payton should be firmly on the hot seat, another losing season is not acceptable, anything less than a playoff appearance and I'd start looking at life after Sean.
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We haven't even played a game yet. The season hasn't even started.
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Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster.

Has Payton lost that fire?
I don't think SP lost the fire, I think he has lost the ability to have the team respond
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I think he lost it after 2013. I just don't see the passion and fight in him anymore.

I believe Payton should be firmly on the hot seat, another losing season is not acceptable, anything less than a playoff appearance and I'd start looking at life after Sean.
If he gets fired I would get rid of all his cronies to. Bill Cowher would be my choice as HC.
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We haven't even played a game yet. The season hasn't even started.
this preseason does not sit in isolation. It isn't like we were 9-7 and then 10-6 the last two seasons and there is reason for optimism. We have been bad two years in a row without an ounce of improvement. the oline is the worst it has ever been here, the worst. People saying these things without playing a game are because we have the last two seasons to go off coupled with this preseason.
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LOL at the excuses some are coming up with. Did any of you stay on the channel to hear coach's presser after the game? I did. Guess what...he knows our O line is eff'd. He actually said the lines on both sides but specifically talked about the O line saying it's worrisome. Does that give you nice warm fuzzies? His presser looked like a mid season presser and he looked worn out already. I want to believe as much as the next guy but all the signs are pointing to a looong season.
It was pretty obvious our OL stunk but you see how he deflecting the OL with the DL? The DL actually was pushing the 1 st two drives but Ben reading that he have 1 on 1 with a rookie D Harris on A Brown burned us (how can you pressure a qb if held the ball for less than 2 seconds) then P J Williams. Give me a f***** break.

I haven't seen them develop one rookie since M Colston. Breaux was not a rookie so don't even mention him. Cooks still questionable. Ingram, how can he fully develop with that OL?
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If he gets fired I would get rid of all his cronies to. Bill Cowher would be my choice as HC.
i'd like a tough guy like Bill, but I don't think Bill is coming back.
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It was pretty obvious our OL stunk but you see how he deflecting the OL with the DL? The DL actually was pushing the 1 st two drives but Ben reading that he have 1 on 1 with a rookie D Harris on A Brown burned us (how can you pressure a qb if held the ball for less than 2 seconds) then P J Williams. Give me a f***** break.

I haven't seen them develop one rookie since M Colston. Breaux was not a rookie so don't even mention him. Cooks still questionable. Ingram, how can he fully develop with that OL?
Rookies we've developed...
Jordan
Davison
Richardson
Galette
Cooks
Armstead
Ivory
Strief
Harper
Stinchcomb
Bushrod
Anthony
Morstead
J Graham
A Johnson
Kikaha
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Well it's finally good to see you guys seeing the light. I've been saying it all along last year and this year. lot of people said I was nuts good to see you guys saw the eye doctor .
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