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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by spkb25 so he used to be a good head coach. agree, but I don't think he is anymore, and I sure hope I am wrong, but the team doesn't seem to have made any progress in 3 ...

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Old 08-27-2016, 03:27 PM   #61
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so he used to be a good head coach. agree, but I don't think he is anymore, and I sure hope I am wrong, but the team doesn't seem to have made any progress in 3 years
Great coaches win

We are barely hovering above .500 with Payton, one more losing season and we'll be 5-5 in terms of winning and losing seasons.

How much longer is he going to be classed as a successful coach? We won a superbowl nearly 7 years ago and have made 3 trips to the playoffs since.

We'll see how this season plays out, preseason is not making it look promising but another non-playoff season and I absolutely have to believe Payton is on his way out.
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Old 08-27-2016, 03:37 PM   #62
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LOL at the excuses some are coming up with. Did any of you stay on the channel to hear coach's presser after the game? I did. Guess what...he knows our O line is eff'd. He actually said the lines on both sides but specifically talked about the O line saying it's worrisome. Does that give you nice warm fuzzies? His presser looked like a mid season presser and he looked worn out already. I want to believe as much as the next guy but all the signs are pointing to a looong season.
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Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster.

Has Payton lost that fire?
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Old 08-27-2016, 04:07 PM   #64
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Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster.

Has Payton lost that fire?
I think he lost it after 2013. I just don't see the passion and fight in him anymore.

I believe Payton should be firmly on the hot seat, another losing season is not acceptable, anything less than a playoff appearance and I'd start looking at life after Sean.
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We haven't even played a game yet. The season hasn't even started.
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Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster.

Has Payton lost that fire?
I don't think SP lost the fire, I think he has lost the ability to have the team respond
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Old 08-27-2016, 05:01 PM   #67
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I think he lost it after 2013. I just don't see the passion and fight in him anymore.

I believe Payton should be firmly on the hot seat, another losing season is not acceptable, anything less than a playoff appearance and I'd start looking at life after Sean.
If he gets fired I would get rid of all his cronies to. Bill Cowher would be my choice as HC.
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Old 08-27-2016, 05:10 PM   #68
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We haven't even played a game yet. The season hasn't even started.
this preseason does not sit in isolation. It isn't like we were 9-7 and then 10-6 the last two seasons and there is reason for optimism. We have been bad two years in a row without an ounce of improvement. the oline is the worst it has ever been here, the worst. People saying these things without playing a game are because we have the last two seasons to go off coupled with this preseason.
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LOL at the excuses some are coming up with. Did any of you stay on the channel to hear coach's presser after the game? I did. Guess what...he knows our O line is eff'd. He actually said the lines on both sides but specifically talked about the O line saying it's worrisome. Does that give you nice warm fuzzies? His presser looked like a mid season presser and he looked worn out already. I want to believe as much as the next guy but all the signs are pointing to a looong season.
It was pretty obvious our OL stunk but you see how he deflecting the OL with the DL? The DL actually was pushing the 1 st two drives but Ben reading that he have 1 on 1 with a rookie D Harris on A Brown burned us (how can you pressure a qb if held the ball for less than 2 seconds) then P J Williams. Give me a f***** break.

I haven't seen them develop one rookie since M Colston. Breaux was not a rookie so don't even mention him. Cooks still questionable. Ingram, how can he fully develop with that OL?
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If he gets fired I would get rid of all his cronies to. Bill Cowher would be my choice as HC.
i'd like a tough guy like Bill, but I don't think Bill is coming back.
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