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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; You actually believe Drew will take less money. Do you really believe that? LMAO You're out of your mind I gotta laugh cause you call me nutts. Do not assume that Drew is as Loyal to New Orleans if they ...

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Old 08-28-2016, 10:27 PM   #41
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You actually believe Drew will take less money. Do you really believe that? LMAO You're out of your mind I gotta laugh cause you call me nutts.




Do not assume that Drew is as Loyal to New Orleans if they don't franchise him.
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Old 08-28-2016, 10:41 PM   #42
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You actually believe Drew will take less money. Do you really believe that? LMAO You're out of your mind I gotta laugh cause you call me nutts.
Where did I say he'd take less money? I said $25M per year fully guaranteed. That would be the largest annual and guaranteed contract to date. That would be a 25% annual increase over his current salary. He is currently getting paid on a contract with a $20M annual salary. The $30M counting against this year's cap exists because of a restructure and does not reflect his actual average.
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Old 08-28-2016, 10:46 PM   #43
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Do not assume that Drew is as Loyal to New Orleans if they don't franchise him.
I believe Brees is about as loyal as you can get, but he would be well worth the $25M per season. I don't think Brees would take a "hometown discount" and I equally doubt that the Saints would be so foolish as to ask for one, nor do they need to given the amount of open cap space.
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Old 08-28-2016, 10:52 PM   #44
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Hope you get a enjoy watching him this year. It more than likely will be the last time you see him in black and gold. Time will tell. My money is on it is
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Old 08-28-2016, 10:57 PM   #45
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The ONLY way we can stay in the hunt is to re-sign him.
What are you going to do with yourself when he retires? You poo poo the idea of him leaving all the time. I'm not saying he's leaving after this year... But some day he is. If we're at the point that there is NO chance without Brees, then that should tell you something about this organization. You don't know what's going to happen, nothing you have said about the negotiations has come to pass. But I guess whatever happens, and when that happens, you will tell everyone you knew it.

There is going to be a replacement for Drew WHENEVER he leaves or retires. You know how I know that? Because there is no other choice. I get tired of reading the pompous "who are we gonna replace him with, hahahaha". The answer is whoever it takes.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Old 08-28-2016, 11:00 PM   #46
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I just don't see the point in paying for Kobe beef if your gonna eat it off a Cow pie
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What are you going to do with yourself when he retires? You poo poo the idea of him leaving all the time. I'm not saying he's leaving after this year... But some day he is. If we're at the point that there is NO chance without Brees, then that should tell you something about this organization. You don't know what's going to happen, nothing you have said about the negotiations has come to pass. But I guess whatever happens, and when that happens, you will tell everyone you knew it.

There is going to be a replacement for Drew WHENEVER he leaves or retires. You know how I know that? Because there is no other choice. I get tired of reading the pompous "who are we gonna replace him with, hahahaha". The answer is whoever it takes.
No kidding. Now just isn't the time, as you said yourself. I have no doubt there will be someone there to take over when Brees does retire. I fully expect the Saints to either draft a QB every year, or pick up UDFA QB's, or both. Hopefully one of those will not be too much of a downgrade.

My response to which you referred was talking about this coming off-season. That is laughable thinking Brees could be replaced with what is going to be available.
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Old 08-28-2016, 11:19 PM   #48
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I just don't see the point in paying for Kobe beef if your gonna eat it off a Cow pie
It's better than paying going rate for a starting QB for horse meat. What you don't understand is that whatever Brees would be paid it won't make a dent in what is going to be available. If Brees gets the $25M per year, or a 25% increase from his 2012 contract rate he will be receiving a lower percentage of the total cap than he was receiving in 2012.

The 2012 cap was $120.6 million. Brees' $20M salary was basically 16.67% of the total cap.

If Brees re-signs at $25M per year, for three years, and the 2019 cap projections are $180 million, then Brees' $25M salary would basically be only 13.89% of the total cap.

While the Saints would be paying Brees more cash, it would be leaving a much greater percentage of cap available than at any point over the previous five years.

I'm having that feeling again.
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Well as it stands there is around 40ml in open cap next year. Brees,Unger and Snead will eat that before you add rookies and FA unless you push the money back. Then Breaux,Cooks need new deals the years after. It about time we stopped sitting on the cap snd pushing the money back eating millions of dead money each year
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No kidding. Now just isn't the time, as you said yourself. I have no doubt there will be someone there to take over when Brees does retire. I fully expect the Saints to either draft a QB every year, or pick up UDFA QB's, or both. Hopefully one of those will not be too much of a downgrade.

My response to which you referred was talking about this coming off-season. That is laughable thinking Brees could be replaced with what is going to be available.
Suppose they draft a QB in the first round next year? You never know what you're going to get with draft picks. So it's not like you can wait until there is a guaranteed replacement. Because guarantees don't exist.

Ideally, Brees stays healthy and productive. But it's difficult to project how many years a QB has left once they get into their late 30's. I've made that point before. Peyton was 37 and breaking records a couple years ago, and it seemed like his career would never end. But he went downhill fast. Now, I'm not suggesting that we should assume that Brees will have that drastic of a drop, and that the Saints will, or should, just send him packing. But that's something that you know they have to think about. That's how you avoid going into years of disaster.

When the Packers drafted Rodgers, it's not like they were picking in the top 5. They drafted him in the mid 20's, and Favre was coming off another very strong season. They didn't HAVE to draft a QB, but they did, and it worked out. So when you ask who will they replace him with this coming off season, no one can say for sure who that will be, but there will be some options if they choose to go that way, which I don't expect.

One advantage we wouldn't have is having the QB sit and learn for a year. But that's what happens when you wait too long. At some point you have to plan for the future. Saying that we might not have another player of Brees' caliber is irrelevant. Because Drew isn't going to play for another 20 years. Nor will he play 10 years, regardless of what he says. So you still have to prepare.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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