TRADE BREES

The Dude · 08-29-2016, 01:24 PM

When is the next time we are going to have a great QB? It took us 40 years to get Brees. Once he's gone there will be 3-4 years of trial and error Qbs before we will have time to really evaluate their potential. If it doesn't work by that time you will have a host of other players to pay.

The Dude · 08-29-2016, 01:26 PM

Also his name is Brees not Bree plural or whatever.

WhoDat!656 · 08-29-2016, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I know I know I'll get blasted for this but hear me out.

We are just prolonging the inevitable. Start cleaning house and trade anything we can get value for. Dallas needs a QB even the Bronco's may even jump at it. Get us a couple of younger players showing promise this off season and a couple of picks.

I think Sean is a great coach if he wanted to buy some time keeping his job... I could respect him more by cleaning house now or a year or two ago. We are going to have to clean house including getting rid of him if he doesn't do it himself.

Every so often you need to clean house and start fresh. Unless you are the Patriots and they make the playoffs every year which is more that I can say about us lately.

The Patriots make the playoffs every year because the rest of the division is a dumpster fire; same as the 49ers in the 80s with the Saints, Rams and failclowns.

Why now that the defense is at least showing some signs of life, would you want to get rid of the one player that is making the Saints relevant?

Do the Saints have issues that need be and should have already been addressed? Absolutely!

So do 31 other teams, but I doubt you will find many posts from fans calling for the team to clean house!

Brees is not the reason the Saints are in cap hell, or the defense has sucked for several years!

Danno · 08-29-2016, 01:54 PM

We can win it all this year with Brees.
We can't without him.
He's got 2 or 3 good years left.
Stop, please just stop.

WhoDat!656 · 08-29-2016, 01:57 PM

Classic throwing the baby out with the bath water mentality!

dizzle88 · 08-29-2016, 02:08 PM

If we traded Brees I'd put my montly wage on us getting the first pick in 2017 draft.

Would be an idiotic decision, no way is Grayson ready and McCown is serviceable at best.

Euphoria · 08-29-2016, 02:15 PM

The part about throwing the season away... it is sort of the point.

This team is floundering in mediocrity. A sinking ship if you will. The one way to right the ship is jettison what we have and rebuild. It is going to happen sooner or later why not stop wasting out time with the same 8-8 and 7-9 if we are lucky this season. Why not cut bait and start rebuilding. I know it is to late in the off season now but there are some opportunities out there to begin.

I have the feeling that won't even happen this off season coming up.

I am just wondering why the rebuilding hasn't begun yet!

jeanpierre · 08-29-2016, 02:21 PM

A couple of things...

One, would Payton stick around without Brees or a franchise quarterback?

Probably not, as Payton wouldn't want his "stock" to take a hit...

Two, Brees is contracted to the end of the season at a cap cost to the Saints of $30 mil and then he's a free agent after the end of season?

Who'd make that trade? - maybe the Broncos, and they'd likely be in the Final Four of the tournament, so you're gonna get, what?!? A first round pick at the end of the draft?

There's only one sensible course of action at this point, play out the season with Brees, scouting his level of play charting any possible decline in play and make an informed decision, course of action at that point...

K Major · 08-29-2016, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Why not cut bait and start rebuilding. I know it is to late in the off season now but there are some opportunities out there to begin.

I am just wondering why the rebuilding hasn't begun yet!

??

The rebuilding begun last year on defense. Hired a competent DC in Dennis Allen. How about the rookies playing in 2015? On top of that, we've added new corners, drafted NT (our 1st pick in this years draft) & added two new safeties (Bell & Erik) this year. I'd say defense is already in rebuild mode.

As far as cutting bait, didn't we get rid of Rob & #39?

halloween 65 · 08-29-2016, 02:35 PM

I would let him play out the season. We have already paid fot it. The O-line being as it is he'll be lucky to make the season and if he does I don't think we resign him anyway. As for Payton, a losing season drops his stock as a HC but he is still one of the top OC's in the buisness. I don't think he would be out of work unless he wanted to. So far McCarthy in GB has done alot better than Payton(it really pains me to say that) maybe GB"s FO is better than ours from top to bottom. They at least show they are thats even trading Favre away.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: TRADE BREE's When is the next time we are going to have a great QB? It took us 40 years to get Brees. Once he's gone there will be 3-4 years of trial and error Qbs before we will have time to really evaluate their potential. If it doesn't work by that time you will have a host of other players to pay. 44Champs likes this.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: TRADE BREE's Also his name is Brees not Bree plural or whatever. 44Champs likes this.
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08-29-2016, 01:38 PM	#13
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,001	Re: TRADE BREE's Originally Posted by Euphoria I know I know I'll get blasted for this but hear me out. We are just prolonging the inevitable. Start cleaning house and trade anything we can get value for. Dallas needs a QB even the Bronco's may even jump at it. Get us a couple of younger players showing promise this off season and a couple of picks. I think Sean is a great coach if he wanted to buy some time keeping his job... I could respect him more by cleaning house now or a year or two ago. We are going to have to clean house including getting rid of him if he doesn't do it himself. Every so often you need to clean house and start fresh. Unless you are the Patriots and they make the playoffs every year which is more that I can say about us lately. The Patriots make the playoffs every year because the rest of the division is a dumpster fire; same as the 49ers in the 80s with the Saints, Rams and failclowns. Why now that the defense is at least showing some signs of life, would you want to get rid of the one player that is making the Saints relevant? Do the Saints have issues that need be and should have already been addressed? Absolutely! So do 31 other teams, but I doubt you will find many posts from fans calling for the team to clean house! Brees is not the reason the Saints are in cap hell, or the defense has sucked for several years! 44Champs likes this.
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Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: TRADE BREES We can win it all this year with Brees. We can't without him. He's got 2 or 3 good years left. Stop, please just stop. SmashMouth, dizzle88, WhoDat!656 and 3 others like this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: TRADE BREES If we traded Brees I'd put my montly wage on us getting the first pick in 2017 draft. Would be an idiotic decision, no way is Grayson ready and McCown is serviceable at best. 44Champs likes this.

08-29-2016, 02:15 PM	#17
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: TRADE BREES The part about throwing the season away... it is sort of the point. This team is floundering in mediocrity. A sinking ship if you will. The one way to right the ship is jettison what we have and rebuild. It is going to happen sooner or later why not stop wasting out time with the same 8-8 and 7-9 if we are lucky this season. Why not cut bait and start rebuilding. I know it is to late in the off season now but there are some opportunities out there to begin. I have the feeling that won't even happen this off season coming up. I am just wondering why the rebuilding hasn't begun yet!
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08-29-2016, 02:21 PM	#18
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: TRADE BREES A couple of things... One, would Payton stick around without Brees or a franchise quarterback? Probably not, as Payton wouldn't want his "stock" to take a hit... Two, Brees is contracted to the end of the season at a cap cost to the Saints of $30 mil and then he's a free agent after the end of season? Who'd make that trade? - maybe the Broncos, and they'd likely be in the Final Four of the tournament, so you're gonna get, what?!? A first round pick at the end of the draft? There's only one sensible course of action at this point, play out the season with Brees, scouting his level of play charting any possible decline in play and make an informed decision, course of action at that point...
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08-29-2016, 02:29 PM	#19
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,035 Blog Entries: 3	Re: TRADE BREES Originally Posted by Euphoria Why not cut bait and start rebuilding. I know it is to late in the off season now but there are some opportunities out there to begin. I am just wondering why the rebuilding hasn't begun yet! ?? The rebuilding begun last year on defense. Hired a competent DC in Dennis Allen. How about the rookies playing in 2015? On top of that, we've added new corners, drafted NT (our 1st pick in this years draft) & added two new safeties (Bell & Erik) this year. I'd say defense is already in rebuild mode. As far as cutting bait, didn't we get rid of Rob & #39?

08-29-2016, 02:35 PM	#20
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: TRADE BREES I would let him play out the season. We have already paid fot it. The O-line being as it is he'll be lucky to make the season and if he does I don't think we resign him anyway. As for Payton, a losing season drops his stock as a HC but he is still one of the top OC's in the buisness. I don't think he would be out of work unless he wanted to. So far McCarthy in GB has done alot better than Payton(it really pains me to say that) maybe GB"s FO is better than ours from top to bottom. They at least show they are thats even trading Favre away.

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