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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Rell&Gold Injuries Injuries Injuries....If we were 100% healthy no doubt in my mind we are at least 2-2 after the first 4 I'm convinced that if we just had an ordinary amount of injuries we'd be 3-1, ...

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Old 09-27-2016, 02:11 PM   #81
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Injuries Injuries Injuries....If we were 100% healthy no doubt in my mind we are at least 2-2 after the first 4
I'm convinced that if we just had an ordinary amount of injuries we'd be 3-1, maybe 4-0 at the break.

I doubt any team has suffered even half of the key injuries that we have.
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Old 09-27-2016, 02:14 PM   #82
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I'm convinced that if we just had an ordinary amount of injuries we'd be 3-1, maybe 4-0 at the break.

I doubt any team has suffered even half of the key injuries that we have.
Surely Payton needs to recognise this, Strength and conditioning has been lackluster for years and he just brushes it under the carpet.
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Old 09-27-2016, 02:18 PM   #83
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Surely Payton needs to recognise this, Strength and conditioning has been lackluster for years and he just brushes it under the carpet.
I don't know what the reason is, but excessive injuries continue to happen to us year after year.

Every team has a few, but damn we seem to have a ton more than others.

Breaux
PJWilliams
Vaccaro
Ellerbe
Davison
Armstead
Snead

Hooman
Lewis
Swann
Wilson
Kikaha
Rankins
Sanford
Hill

Starters bolded
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Old 09-27-2016, 02:24 PM   #84
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I don't know what the reason is, but excessive injuries continue to happen to us year after year.

Every team has a few, but damn we seem to have a ton more than others.

Breaux
PJWilliams
Vaccaro
Ellerbe
Davison
Armstead
Snead

Hooman
Lewis
Swann
Wilson
Kikaha
Rankins
Sanford
Hill

Starters bolded
When Payton came back from his suspension and had lost weight, didn't he say he had brought crossfit in with him?

I'm no gym rat, but I've heard crossfit is complete nonsense, if Payton is making our players do that in the weight room then no wonder they are getting injured.
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Old 09-27-2016, 03:06 PM   #85
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I'm convinced that if we just had an ordinary amount of injuries we'd be 3-1, maybe 4-0 at the break.

I doubt any team has suffered even half of the key injuries that we have.
San Diego has 15 players on IR. Blatimore has 11 on IR.
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Old 09-27-2016, 03:39 PM   #86
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People all the time say that preseason doesn't matter

Two winless preseasons and we are showing no signs of improving in the regular season.

We are not a tough team and we are undisciplined, the cut back lane was wide open last night, Freeman only had to cut back and he had atleast 25 yards if not more.
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Re: Is Sean Paytons Job safe if we miss the playoffs?

Kind of surprised no one is really bashing the special teams play over the last 3 weeks.

Miscues in Oakland (missed FG/giving them a short field & score), miscues in NY (blocked fg attempt and subsequent TD by the Giants) & Atlanta (Harris collides with TommyLee resulting in a turnover & momentum shift).

Poor special teams & mental breakdowns have cost us dearly ... hence 0-3.
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Kind of surprised no one is really bashing the special teams play over the last 3 weeks.

Miscues in Oakland (missed FG/giving them a short field & score), miscues in NY (blocked fg attempt and subsequent TD by the Giants) & Atlanta (Harris collides with TommyLee resulting in a turnover & momentum shift).

Poor special teams & mental breakdowns have cost us dearly ... hence 0-3.
Its definitely part of the problem but we are screwed because we can't overcome 1 mistake in a game.
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San Diego has 15 players on IR. Blatimore has 11 on IR.
Were they all starters?

Baltimore, same starting 11 on defense since week 1.
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Were they all starters?

Baltimore, same starting 11 on defense since week 1.

Never specified what side they play on. You said you doubt any teams have as many significant players hurt as us. Thats false. I didnt even mention Vikings. Imagine if we lost Brees and Ingram for the year.

Saints have 13 on IR. Of that 8 are defensive players. Of that 5 are starters. Breaux, PJ Williams, Swann, Kikaha and Rankins. I am counting Breux as being on IR cause he would be if not for putting Rankins on it and us wanting both of them to be back this year.
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