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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Draft Prospects By Round Saints could find as a good fit... No. 11 (R1, 11) LB Reuben Foster, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 236 lbs. No. 11 (R1, 11) DL Malik McDowell, Michigan St; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 276 lbs. ...

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Old 01-27-2017, 08:02 AM   #111
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Draft Prospects By Round Saints could find as a good fit...

No. 11 (R1, 11) LB Reuben Foster, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 236 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) DL Malik McDowell, Michigan St; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 276 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) QB Mitch Trubiskey, Duke; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 220 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) SS Jabrill Peppers, Michigan; Height: 6' 0", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) CB Marshon Lattimore, Ohio St; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 195 lbs.

No. 44 (R2, 10) CB Adoree’ Jackson, USC; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 185 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 285 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) WR Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 198 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) OL Ethan Pocic, LSU; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 309 lbs.

No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 285 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) CB Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) DT Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 320 lbs. (+)
No. 74 (R3, 12) CB Rasul Douglas, West Virginia; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 208 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) LB Alex Anzalone, Florida; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 245 lbs. (+)

No. 109 (R4, 11) LG Nico Siragusa, San Diego St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 330 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) TE Adam Shaheen, Ashland; Height: 6’ 6”, Weight: 277 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Tarell Basham, Ohio; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 262 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Ryan Glasgow, Ohio; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 299 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 255 lbs.

No. 150 (R5, 12) Traded to the Washington Redskins

No. 185 (R6, 10) C Jon Toth, Kentucky; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) LB Tyus Bowser, Houston; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 240 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) RB Elijah McGuire, Louisiana-Lafayette; Height: 5’ 9”, Weight: 215 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) TE Eric Saubert, Drake; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 247 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) WR Billy Brown, Shepherd; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 230 lbs.

No. 233 (R7, 11) SS Dallas Lloyd, Stanford; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) RG Sean Harlow, Oregon St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) FS Xavier Woods, Louisiana Tech; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) TE Cole Hikutini, Louisiville; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 248 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) LB Hardy Nickerson, Illinois/Cal; Height: 6’ 1”, Weight: 240 lbs.
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Old 01-27-2017, 08:16 AM   #112
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No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.

2nd round talent? I hadn't seen much on Watt last season.
Share your thoughts.

Side note: I love his size at the LB position.
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Old 01-27-2017, 09:47 AM   #113
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No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.

2nd round talent? I hadn't seen much on Watt last season.
Share your thoughts.

Side note: I love his size at the LB position.
Major, Watt originally started as a Tight End, so he's athletic with good agility, hands; Badgers had need at OLB/DE, he made the move, only playing position a couple of years; had injuries early on, but showed he's more than healthy, recovered; based on his progression and improvement, most scouting reports feel he still has a high ceiling; common scouting report comments refer to his passion for the football like his siblings; constant evaluation after each other's games via late calls into the night, high traffic texting - not a bad resource to have, a good tight-knit family; he can play as a 3-4 or 4-3 OLB or has the frame to add 25 lbs and play 4-3 weakside DE; already an effective pass rusher despite limited experience and moves, so he'll need to continue to develop moves to become special at the NFL level; does a great job against the run by engaging blockers and using his long arms to avoid getting jammed, often doing the jamming; many feel he can be a starter by the end of his first season in either front; smart player who adapts to in-game to situations and will make plays as attested by his 2016 numbers of 63 TK, 15.5 TKL, 11.5 SK, 4 PD, 2 FF, and 1 INT/TD - these are not fluke numbers. Watt is rated as one of the top edge rushers in this year's NFL Draft and is expected to be an early round selection.

If he tests poorly at the underoos olympics, I'd ignore because he plays faster than he'll time with great instincts; for me, Watt reminds me alot of a playmaking Scott Fujita (if he really works and gets in the right fit, could be every bit as good as a Jack Lambert) and I think he's got the athleticism, just needs experience in pass coverage and his most impact for the Saints will be as a strongside OLB in D.A.'s 4-3 front as a three-down linebacker...JP
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I like Ethan Pocic in the second. I hope he's still there when we pick.
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I like Ethan Pocic in the second. I hope he's still there when we pick.
Could you imagine we signed RG Kevin Zeitler and LG Andrew Norwell and had Pocic as our reserve? He could backup either guard, center, and right tackle!
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I like Ethan Pocic in the second. I hope he's still there when we pick.

Ethan Pocic C/OG/OT LSU 6056 309 5.18 Sr #77 Sr


HGT 6060
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HAND 10 1/8
ARM 32 5/8
WING 80 1/4

Mr Versility. Can play all five offensive line positions. abilities ‘in the phone booth’ stuffing nose tackles. relentless pass blocker.. keeps his head on a swivel. scout quotes: “Pocic is extremely intelligent,” “He’s tough and strong". "He may not be an elite physical talent, obviously, but he does have elite size for guard or center.”
Plug and play RG day 1? Solid assumption and a safe pick in 2
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No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.

2nd round talent? I hadn't seen much on Watt last season.
Share your thoughts.

Side note: I love his size at the LB position.
He is just like his brother. Freaking reckless wrecking ball. A joy to watch.
only concern is he has always played in 34. Switch should not be that big of an issue. But being a 34 coming out of college with his measurable, I see him as a hot commodity unless he tanks at the combine.

Keep an eye on

Vince Biegel OLB/ILB Wisconsin 6035 245 4.75 #47 rSr
"A clean medical check on that "cracked foot" during the draft process figures to be crucial to his stock"
Lacks the name reconnection but this kid can play.

Vince Biegel is to T.J. Watt as Ryan Anderson is to Tim Williams

If the meds check out I would feel comfortable with our OLB being
Ryan Anderson
Vince Biegel
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Could you imagine we signed RG Kevin Zeitler and LG Andrew Norwell and had Pocic as our reserve? He could backup either guard, center, and right tackle!
That's a big ugly wet dream!
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Draft Prospects By Round Saints could find as a good fit...

No. 11 (R1, 11) LB Reuben Foster, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 236 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) DL Malik McDowell, Michigan St; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 276 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) QB Mitch Trubiskey, Duke; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 220 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) SS Jabrill Peppers, Michigan; Height: 6' 0", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) CB Marshon Lattimore, Ohio St; Height: 6' 0"; Weight: 195 lbs.

No. 44 (R2, 10) CB Adoree’ Jackson, USC; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 185 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 285 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) WR Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 198 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) OL Ethan Pocic, LSU; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 309 lbs.

No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 285 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) CB Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) DT Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 320 lbs. (+)
No. 74 (R3, 12) CB Rasul Douglas, West Virginia; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 208 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) LB Alex Anzalone, Florida; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 245 lbs. (+)

No. 109 (R4, 11) LG Nico Siragusa, San Diego St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 330 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) TE Adam Shaheen, Ashland; Height: 6’ 6”, Weight: 277 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Tarell Basham, Ohio; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 262 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Ryan Glasgow, Ohio; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 299 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 255 lbs.

No. 150 (R5, 12) Traded to the Washington Redskins

No. 185 (R6, 10) C Jon Toth, Kentucky; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) LB Tyus Bowser, Houston; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 240 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) RB Elijah McGuire, Louisiana-Lafayette; Height: 5’ 9”, Weight: 215 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) TE Eric Saubert, Drake; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 247 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) WR Billy Brown, Shepherd; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 230 lbs.

No. 233 (R7, 11) SS Dallas Lloyd, Stanford; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) RG Sean Harlow, Oregon St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) FS Xavier Woods, Louisiana Tech; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) TE Cole Hikutini, Louisiville; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 248 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) LB Hardy Nickerson, Illinois/Cal; Height: 6’ 1”, Weight: 240 lbs.
From this list, I'd like to watch and learn more about:

No. 11 (R1, 11) LB Reuben Foster, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 236 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) DL Malik McDowell, Michigan St; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 276 lbs.

No. 44 (R2, 10) OL Ethan Pocic, LSU; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 309 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.

No. 74 (R3, 12) DT Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 320 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 285 lbs.

No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 255 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) LG Nico Siragusa, San Diego St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 330 lbs.

No. 185 (R6, 10) LB Tyus Bowser, Houston; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 240 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) C Jon Toth, Kentucky; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 310 lbs.

No. 233 (R7, 11) LB Hardy Nickerson, Illinois/Cal; Height: 6’ 1”, Weight: 240 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) RG Sean Harlow, Oregon St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 310 lbs.
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