Did I say I was turning on the saints? That was mostly a response to people saying I should join the falcons' forum.

Charity Mike, how often do you even post here anyway? Btw you say we are free to voice our opinions well maybe you should see where I have not been free to voice mine. I'm getting attacked for wanting the oline to be younger, Brees to not hold the team hostage, worried he won't make it until he's 40, accusing them of being selfish(which they have been).

You're right, maybe I do need to leave. Maybe I'll just get my saints information on the score and be done with this damn board if this is the case. I'm not going to feel inferior.

And Guido, you're an ass.

They don't give me what I want. I want a team that is all about youth movement without slow older players in the way. The more chances a younger player is given the better they will be. I hate all the recycling of the older players, veterans, Brees' and Payton's antics, the so called "superior posters" here falling in love with too many older players because of holding on to the past instead of embracing the future.

I'm not a falcons fan or a bucs fan. In fact if I ever turned on the saints, it would be for the colts or packers. Those are my second and third teams. But I'm not that type now(I turned on KC years ago). However, I'm starting to hate the fans because they root for stuff that's holding us back.

Did I say I was turning on the saints? That was mostly a response to people saying I should join the falcons' forum.

Charity Mike, how often do you even post here anyway? Btw you say we are free to voice our opinions well maybe you should see where I have not been free to voice mine. I'm getting attacked for wanting the oline to be younger, Brees to not hold the team hostage, worried he won't make it until he's 40, accusing them of being selfish(which they have been).

You're right, maybe I do need to leave. Maybe I'll just get my saints information on the score and be done with this damn board if this is the case. I'm not going to feel inferior.

And Guido, you're an ass.

Any youth movement needs a group of older veterans......that's necessary for cohesion. When we let go of all of our vets at once was when problems started a couple of years ago and we've been 7-9 since. And Drew Brees still has value as do the other vets we have sprinkled on this young team.

I agree with you Will. You are entitled to your opinion of your team. We all have the right to our opinion of the Saints and where the franchise is at right now. I'll admit there are some scary uncertainties surrounding our win/loss record this year. But I've been around a long long time and had to sit next to people with paper bags on their heads(Schweggman's I think). I still occasionally host parties on game day where I hand out the roster and If I'm out of town then I'm at a sports bar dressed to represent from head to toe literally which happens regularly. I spend some games alone but I still have my superstitious traditions that I follow religiously.

I became a fan of this team when I moved to Louisiana while the Saints were young....not from their infancy but since '77. I've lived in New Orleans as a young man and still attend training camp regularly and go to as many games as I can make each year. I fly a Saints flag every day and my fiancé won't let me put up anymore Saints memorabilia outside and now I'm limited on additions inside the house.

I grew up on a ranch in Texas and watched the Cowboys with my father religiously until Jerry Jones bought the team and started the current state of affairs in Dallas........so I can understand turning your back on a franchise. Also, I am allowed to have a second team that I like without revoking my Saints fan card.........however people on their second or third team in a few years need to reevaluate their expectations.

Stop with the negativity and see what local reporters and your fellow members think about the possibilities ahead. There are positives to look for in a young growing team that is looking better on defense while offense puts up the points every year.

Try finding a positive to look for and you'll sleep better at night and possibly have more enjoyable conversations on the boards. It's a fact that people with a positive out look live longer and happier lives.

I am a true fanatic!

In 2015 we did this, we went back and tried to restore it with Browner(yeah, I know) and Ellerbe. But it wasn't working enough. We needed a leader in the form of Vilma. We got that in JL.

THE ONLY JOY I TAKE FROM LIFE IS POSTING ABOUT HOW MISERABLE I AM!!!!!
Bet you're a lot of fun at a crawfish boil......