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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No, you haven't seen them. You have seen some of them with other nonstarters in the backfield and at TE. You have seen them with QB's we do not want in a game. You have not ...

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Old 09-08-2016, 07:44 PM   #41
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Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.'

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
No, you haven't seen them. You have seen some of them with other nonstarters in the backfield and at TE. You have seen them with QB's we do not want in a game. You have not seen one snap of the starters as a unit in a real game against a real opponent. That is a fact. That cannot be disputed. You can believe what you wish but it isn't worth anymore than the credibility you give PFF.
Our starters last year were Armstead, Kelemete/Lelito, Unger, Evans and Strief.

Our projected starters for week 1 are Armstead, Peat, Unger Evans and Strief.

What haven't I seen now?
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Look I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong I would also hope that you would eat yours if you're wrong We agree to disagree but I have seen nothing that makes me think what I believe is wrong.If you are proven wrong I would hope That someday you would learn to stop looking through the black and gold spectacles On occasion. When it looks like a duck quacks like a duck It's a duck
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Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.'

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Our starters last year were Armstead, Kelemete/Lelito, Unger, Evans and Strief.

Our projected starters for week 1 are Armstead, Peat, Unger Evans and Strief.

What haven't I seen now?
An offense ranked outside the top 5?
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An offense ranked outside the top 5?
That top 5 offense don't mean crap when you sitting home in Jan. With s losing record
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That top 5 offense don't mean crap when you sitting home in Jan. With s losing record
How exactly is that the Offenses problem? I'm not following you, unless you're agreeing with me that the offense isn't the problem. I didn't read every post in this thread.

I think its pretty clear our main problem has been fielding one of the worst defenses in NFL history for the past several years.
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An offense ranked outside the top 5?
Danno, I don't know how many times we have to have this argument on here. Throwing the ball 50 times a game will always yield big yards. But it also leads to interceptions and sacks/sack fumbles. And at the end of the day we aren't putting up more than 25 a game, which is about average for a half decent offense now. The offensive ranking is extremely hollow.

The question was about the offensive line, not where we rank in yards.

The defense rightfully takes a lot of the blame. There have been ten thousand threads about that. This team has been bottom of the league in rushing, gives up tons of pressures, and just doesn't sustain enough drives, particularly in the biggest games. They can still feast when going against defenses ranked in the lower half.
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Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.'

I just want to point out that what people are saying about our offense last year is not true. It took some time for our offense to improve and in the beginning there was a lot of complaining about how we couldn't move the ball and kept throwing screens and short passes. Also, some of the yards we gained were during garbage time when the opposing team went into prevent, but that said let me add some proof to my claim about the first few weeks:

19,19,22,26,17. Those are the points we scored in the first 5 games

If it doesn't matter who wins or loses, then why do they keep score?
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Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.'

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Danno, I don't know how many times we have to have this argument on here. Throwing the ball 50 times a game will always yield big yards. But it also leads to interceptions and sacks/sack fumbles. And at the end of the day we aren't putting up more than 25 a game, which is about average for a half decent offense now. The offensive ranking is extremely hollow.

The question was about the offensive line, not where we rank in yards.

The defense rightfully takes a lot of the blame. There have been ten thousand threads about that. This team has been bottom of the league in rushing, gives up tons of pressures, and just doesn't sustain enough drives, particularly in the biggest games. They can still feast when going against defenses ranked in the lower half.
All ya'll on all sides of the arguments can blame Brees, Offense, too many yard, lack of points, better offensive line, suck offensive line, whatever --- in the end I blame Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis. They have had a lot of talent in recent years ---
  • Wasted draft picks (Greyson is typical, could have had more o-line).
  • Playcall gets too ambitious.
  • Too quick to pass, not enough mix of pass and run.
  • Can't beat teams who smack us in the face.

That said, I hope I'm wrong and I hope we go all the way and shut my chubby azz up!
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Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.'

Oh I agree the defense is a huge problem but that's a entirely different discussion we are talking offensive line and how bad they are. Yes I totally agree the defense has been awful which leads to slot of garbage time stats that inflate the offenses stats
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Re: PFF: Basically Saints Fans are FOS, 'Offensive Line Is Very Good, And Has The Potential To Be Great.'

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Look I'll gladly eat my words if I'm wrong I would also hope that you would eat yours if you're wrong We agree to disagree but I have seen nothing that makes me think what I believe is wrong.If you are proven wrong I would hope That someday you would learn to stop looking through the black and gold spectacles On occasion. When it looks like a duck quacks like a duck It's a duck
If I see it and I hear it then I will accept it - a horrible offensive line - one of the worst in the NFL.
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