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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I think Sean is great at judging talent. As long as that talent is offensive and fits his playbook. Defense not so much....

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Old 09-15-2016, 01:28 PM   #11
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I think Sean is great at judging talent. As long as that talent is offensive and fits his playbook.

Defense not so much.
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Old 09-15-2016, 01:36 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by joker-saint View Post
Wow! One game into the season and fans are already calling for Loomis' job? Let the team play! The season isn't over. Geezer Louise...... tough crowd. Who Dat! Baby!!! In Loomis we trust!
Its not one game though. Its a record of 33-34 since 2012
I don't think its unreasonable for questions being asked
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Old 09-15-2016, 02:32 PM   #13
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Its not one game though. Its a record of 33-34 since 2012
I don't think its unreasonable for questions being asked
You can ask all you want, but it will fall on deaf ears. There isn't a front office in the league that cares what a few fans want. Not a single one.
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You can ask all you want, but it will fall on deaf ears. There isn't a front office in the league that cares what a few fans want. Not a single one.
And where have i said they will listen to what i want.
For as much as you moan about being criticising the team you come out with the same answers "The team wont listen". We know they wont,its does not mean its not something the fans will not or should not discuss.

Also yes the front office will listen when the fans start turning.
Fans have a far bigger impact than some people want to admit.
Im love growing up was Liverpool football club and when we were bought by Tom Hicks(Texas Rangers) and George Gillet(Montreal Canadians) they leveraged the cost of the buy out against the team and were making the team play for itself. The club started to move backwards but when it was time for them to renew the loan with the banks the fans stood forward and emailed every single bank the tried to do business with to the point that all the banks servers collsapsed over the hundred of thousands of emails they received,every bank walked away forcing the Royal Bank of Scotland who owned the debt to sell the clubs from under them to the owners of the Boston Red Soxs.

Now im obviously ot saying that is relevant here but there is a case for Loomis role to be discussed. Im not saying he should be give the boot at the moment but i do think that he has too much on his plate trying to run both the Saints and the Pelicans. Both jobs are year round and there is not enough time in the day to be trying to do both jobs.

As i said on another thread,this isnt a case of fans crying and whinging on the back of a bad season,that will happen. This is a case of a team going into regression since 2012,they have lost more games than they have won since 2012. There is only so long you can live of a superbowl and great spell from the mid 2000 to 2011. Maybe i see things differently as i didnt grow up a Saints fans and my first love was Soccer and one of the most succesful teams in the game both ationally and in European competition. There is one thing winning teams do constantly and is not sit on there past successes,its is what makes them successful. Our greatest manager once said "First is first, second is nowhere" and its true. Nobody remembers runners up,nobody remembers the plucky underdogs that had a great couple of years and are happy to just make it to the playoffs. There is a reason certain teams are always there or there abouts come crunch time,its gets embedded in their DNA as a player that winning the division isnt good eough,winning the AFC/NFC championships isnt good enough.

Being 33-34 since September 2012 isnt good enough
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Old 09-15-2016, 04:00 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by lee909 View Post
Its not one game though. Its a record of 33-34 since 2012
I don't think its unreasonable for questions being asked
And compare that to the New England Patriots who Sean Payton gushes over at any given moment and tries to emulate.

Whilst we have been 33-34 since 2012 with 1 playoff appearance, the patriots have;

48-16 record, 4 playoff appearances and 1 superbowl win.

Lets be real, Payton spends that long trying to copy another teams blueprint he's completely forgotten how the team became successful from 2009-2011.
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It's not just FA, this team sucks on draft day. Coaches, look for Spags to have a pretty good year.

This team lacks talent in the front office, coaching staff and defense.

It's a good thing they don't pick the Saintsations.
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Old 09-15-2016, 10:57 PM   #17
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And where have i said they will listen to what i want.
For as much as you moan about being criticising the team you come out with the same answers "The team wont listen". We know they wont,its does not mean its not something the fans will not or should not discuss.

Also yes the front office will listen when the fans start turning.
Fans have a far bigger impact than some people want to admit.
Im love growing up was Liverpool football club and when we were bought by Tom Hicks(Texas Rangers) and George Gillet(Montreal Canadians) they leveraged the cost of the buy out against the team and were making the team play for itself. The club started to move backwards but when it was time for them to renew the loan with the banks the fans stood forward and emailed every single bank the tried to do business with to the point that all the banks servers collsapsed over the hundred of thousands of emails they received,every bank walked away forcing the Royal Bank of Scotland who owned the debt to sell the clubs from under them to the owners of the Boston Red Soxs.

Now im obviously ot saying that is relevant here but there is a case for Loomis role to be discussed. Im not saying he should be give the boot at the moment but i do think that he has too much on his plate trying to run both the Saints and the Pelicans. Both jobs are year round and there is not enough time in the day to be trying to do both jobs.

As i said on another thread,this isnt a case of fans crying and whinging on the back of a bad season,that will happen. This is a case of a team going into regression since 2012,they have lost more games than they have won since 2012. There is only so long you can live of a superbowl and great spell from the mid 2000 to 2011. Maybe i see things differently as i didnt grow up a Saints fans and my first love was Soccer and one of the most succesful teams in the game both ationally and in European competition. There is one thing winning teams do constantly and is not sit on there past successes,its is what makes them successful. Our greatest manager once said "First is first, second is nowhere" and its true. Nobody remembers runners up,nobody remembers the plucky underdogs that had a great couple of years and are happy to just make it to the playoffs. There is a reason certain teams are always there or there abouts come crunch time,its gets embedded in their DNA as a player that winning the division isnt good eough,winning the AFC/NFC championships isnt good enough.

Being 33-34 since September 2012 isnt good enough
You run it into the ground, dude. If you stated it and moved on, then fine. But you, and others, bring up the exact same tub of crap every day in every thread. Over and over and over again. Believe whatever you want, but what is with the constant griping about the same things nonstop? We've heard you. Fine. Move on and find another tune to hum.

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Old 09-15-2016, 10:59 PM   #18
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Re: Fire Mickey Loomis? Don't waste your breath with the question

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You can ask all you want, but it will fall on deaf ears. There isn't a front office in the league that cares what a few fans want. Not a single one.
lol. You just refuse to get it. Nobody cares who's listening, or if you approve. It's all about discussion. I'm sure you've never ever had anything to say about something you see or hear about an athlete, organization, tv celebrity or politician... Knowing full well that no one was listening or cared about what you had to say. Does that stop you from talking about it? Of course not.

The Saints are fortunate to have a fan base that supports them, no matter how much you like to complain about said fans. If attendance plummeted like it would in a lot of other places when the team is losing, I guarantee you the team would listen to the fans.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Originally Posted by burningmetal View Post
lol. You just refuse to get it. Nobody cares who's listening, or if you approve. It's all about discussion. I'm sure you've never ever had anything to say about something you see or hear about an athlete, organization, tv celebrity or politician... Knowing full well that no one was listening or cared about what you had to say. Does that stop you from talking about it? Of course not.

The Saints are fortunate to have a fan base that supports them, no matter how much you like to complain about said fans. If attendance plummeted like it would in a lot of other places when the team is losing, I guarantee you the team would listen to the fans.
But there is no worry about fans abandoning the Saints games in droves because the vast majority of fans really don't care about what a few are constantly griping about.
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Old 09-15-2016, 11:27 PM   #20
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You see, I'm not complaining about the 99.9% of Saints fans. I'm only complaining about those who ***** and moan about the same things over and over and over again, in every thread, on every day. What is your reason for *****ing about the same things nonstop if you don't care that nobody is listening?
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