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Old 09-19-2016, 04:57 PM   #11
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Re: There's still hope but the reality is

Reality is we all are seeing Payton's loyalty to ****ty coaches finally bite us in the arse
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Old 09-19-2016, 05:17 PM   #12
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Re: There's still hope but the reality is

Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
0-2 for 3 straight seasons isn't bad luck in my opinion, it's all on Sean Payton

The injuries we have suffered are definitely bad luck, 6 CB's injured and we are only in week 2 of the season.

However, Payton does not get this team ready and we lose because of it.

Look at the blocked field goal, fundamentals went out the window and that one play could have been the difference between winning and losing. The fact is great teams make those plays and we do not, we have not made those plays ever since 2013 when we squandered a lead against the Patriots.

Payton is ruining this team, if it's true about Stephone Anthony, I don't blame him for being upset about the Laurinitus signing, Anthony is ten times the player Laurinitus is.

It's just one thing after another every season, if it isnt injuries, then its the D, when the defense starts playing well, the offense becomes completely inept and throws the ball 44 times in a 3 point game.

Why are we trusting Fleener, Cadet and Coleman with the game on the line, none of them deserve a roster spot, our roster is weak and that's why we are 0-2.

While this is true the saints used to win with this style and have good luck. However, as of now, the saints do not have the power to end the run Carolina is on. Carolina is a big deal now. They have reawakened the Carolinas in the sense these fans did not care until 2013. There is no escaping this kind of phenomenon. We are not going to stop it unless we start going and grabbing wins to the point Carolina pales. But our way of playing and the playcalling styles and the players being relied on that does not make sense, it's not holding a candle to the panther buzzsaw.

With that said I'm not blaming Coleman, you took a number one receiver from his college team and turned him into three target per game guy and using him at all the wrong times. What do you think is going to happen? Snead and Thomas were not number ones in college. Stills wasn't, and they play well with the roles they are given. You don't rely on a number four receiver to win the game for you. Do you want another example of a letdown? Devante Parker.

This is a playmakers league now and playmakers simply win. Until the panther phenomenon fades down, saints old style will have to sit and wait. However, it would wait anyway because injuries happen to help others.
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Old 09-19-2016, 05:24 PM   #13
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Re: There's still hope but the reality is

Originally Posted by neugey View Post
Minnesota has a consistently good defense so when bad s**t happens they can still hang in there and get it done. That is why they are 2-0.

Winning teams always have a hunger and an attitude about them. They turn lemons into lemonade.

That was also their home opener against GB and first game was against a team who has been sucking at home since VY. That 2-0 is about to fade fast. If they don't win in Carolina they lose the next two. They cannot keep it up without AP.
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Old 09-19-2016, 05:25 PM   #14
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Re: There's still hope but the reality is

Our defense is really so much better. We only allowed 70 yard rushing and last week would've held the Raiders to 92 without the 75 yard run. Its our pass defense and I place that solely on injuries. We need some experience in the secondary now
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Old 09-19-2016, 05:41 PM   #15
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I hate to do this but regarding last week. Carolina allowed SF to score 27 points within the same frame we allowed Oakland but what happened. Carolina kept going. They didn't stop at 34 points. They scored 12 more points. Basically 39 offensive points. We tend to believe we don't have to keep going and hope the defense wins for us. Defense isn't supposed to win for you late in the fourth, running out the clock is supposed to win for you.
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Old 09-19-2016, 07:40 PM   #16
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Re: There's still hope but the reality is

So.....
This is obviously the glass half-full thread.
Gotcha.
Not arguing.
I would just like to point out that a turnaround has to start somewhere and at some time.
It appears to me that we are heading in the right direction.
The past is the past and 31 other franchises would love to have the consistency of New England.
I understand some of the frustration, but flogging yourself seems to odd to me.
If SP and ML suck and are unable to change?
Why make yourself miserable?
Come back when they are gone.
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Old 09-19-2016, 07:59 PM   #17
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Re: There's still hope but the reality is

We are not a playoff caliber team it's that simple.... We have a mediocre team....
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Old 09-19-2016, 08:17 PM   #18
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Re: There's still hope but the reality is

I have decided the team should just stop and listen to me.

You want my CV
Well here are my skills as GM of the Browns
Took over a year ago,worst team in the team. Traded my way through the season and dealt players away for younger talent. On the eve of season two and the Browns roster looks as follows


QB Grayson(Rookie)
RB E .Elliot/C.Michael
WR 1 J.Jones/P.Dorsett
WR 2 C.Coleman/B.Miller
WR 3 K.White
TE H.Henry

LT L.Joeckel
LG L.Tunsil
OC W.Richburg
RG J.Bitonio
RT S.Volmer

LE S.Richardson
DT L.Williams/D.Shelton
DT G.Atkins/D.Easley
RE D.Buckner
LOLB M.Kendrycks
MLB R.Shazier
ROLB M.Jack

SS D.Buchanan
FS T.Mathieu
CB K.Johnson
CB J.Hadden




Now that is a championship roster if ever i have seen one.
Next step Loomis out,Lee in
Easy this GM lark




















I may not be serious,or am I?

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Old 09-19-2016, 09:18 PM   #19
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Re: There's still hope but the reality is

Originally Posted by CheramieIII View Post
Our defense is really so much better. We only allowed 70 yard rushing and last week would've held the Raiders to 92 without the 75 yard run. Its our pass defense and I place that solely on injuries. We need some experience in the secondary now
We held the giants to 16 points is Brees supposed to win games scoring just one TD?
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Old 09-19-2016, 09:26 PM   #20
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Re: There's still hope but the reality is

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I have decided the team should just stop and listen to me.

You want my CV
Well here are my skills as GM of the Browns
Took over a year ago,worst team in the team. Traded my way through the season and dealt players away for younger talent. On the eve of season two and the Browns roster looks as follows


QB Grayson(Rookie)
RB E .Elliot/C.Michael
WR 1 J.Jones/P.Dorsett
WR 2 C.Coleman/B.Miller
WR 3 K.White
TE H.Henry

LT L.Joeckel
LG L.Tunsil
OC W.Richburg
RG J.Bitonio
RT S.Volmer

LE S.Richardson
DT L.Williams/D.Shelton
DT G.Atkins/D.Easley
RE D.Buckner
LOLB M.Kendrycks
MLB R.Shazier
ROLB M.Jack

SS D.Buchanan
FS T.Mathieu
CB K.Johnson
CB J.Hadden




Now that is a championship roster if ever i have seen one.
Next step Loomis out,Lee in
Easy this GM lark




















I may not be serious,or am I?
All hail the Pretend GM!
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