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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; For anyone saying that it's only injuries holding us back, check the stat that says we are 4-11 in last 15 home games. This problem starts with Payton, he has no direction with this team and is just making it ...

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Old 09-27-2016, 12:01 AM   #201
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For anyone saying that it's only injuries holding us back, check the stat that says we are 4-11 in last 15 home games.

This problem starts with Payton, he has no direction with this team and is just making it up as he goes along.
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:07 AM   #202
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Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints

Next game watch Sean on the sidelines and I'll show you guy that has lost it. He don't even believe.
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:10 AM   #203
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Next game watch Sean on the sidelines and I'll show you guy that has lost it.
You see Sean from 2006-2011 and he was constantly fired up, calling players out for poor play

Ever since the suspension he looks like he doesn't care anymore. It's not fair to the fans, he's messed this team up in a big way.

Yeah we've got injuries, so do New England, they will be starting a rookie or edelman at QB and still find a way to win.
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:12 AM   #204
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This loss really hurt...but considering the attrition we've endured these past five weeks, thought the team played a good game down to the end...
NE has the same , even worse and they win, its an excuse. There is no heart in this team
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:15 AM   #205
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And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either
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Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints

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For anyone saying that it's only injuries holding us back, check the stat that says we are 4-11 in last 15 home games.

This problem starts with Payton, he has no direction with this team and is just making it up as he goes along.
No Dizz, there are still some dysfunctions with this team...

Draft Management, Flip-flopping on defensive philosophies, Draft Management, Bad Contracts/Dead Money, Draft Management, failure to commit to the run and Draft Management...

My point was that the guys that were "available" tonight, played their arses off...
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:18 AM   #207
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And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either
That's a great point...

Look, I wasn't happy when Dennis Allen was made DC and we were changing the defense, yet again, knowing we just spend the last three drafts getting players to fit a 3-4...

But D.A. is in now and we've made our change, let's just see it through and not reverse course again...
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:18 AM   #208
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And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either
Because New England plan for the future accordingly

In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked

Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players.

Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him.
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:21 AM   #209
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No Dizz, there are still some dysfunctions with this team...

Draft Management, Flip-flopping on defensive philosophies, Draft Management, Bad Contracts/Dead Money, Draft Management, failure to commit to the run and Draft Management...

My point was that the guys that were "available" tonight, played their arses off...
Which 80-90% of that is Sean Paytons jurisdiction and therefore he should take the blame.
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:22 AM   #210
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Because New England plan for the future accordingly

In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked

Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players.

Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him.
And this is where I fault Loomis and ultimately, Benson...

Any team that has given one man too much personnel power has failed in this league (will cite Chip Kelly in Philadelphia as the latest example of this)...

Belichick, to his credit, brings in bright personnel people to challenge him and brings something other than "I'm the son of Coach (Fill In Name)" types...

Payton is still one of the best game planners, schemers, he just beats himself before he gets to the field with really bad personnel decisions and doesn't have a strong enough personality in a GM to take him to task or question him...
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