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Old 09-27-2016, 01:06 PM   #41
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Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?

C'man I still rooting for 13-3!!!
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:13 PM   #42
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C'man I still rooting for 13-3!!!
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:18 PM   #43
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Only hope I see is a hight draft pick for 2017
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:22 PM   #44
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Re: 0-3 Do you see any hope for 2016?

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Maybe he's just trying to be positive. There's nothing wrong with that. My hopes for the season are hurting. But I'm trying to have a little. It makes the season a little more enjoyable. For me anyway.
Bro, I hear you and Nothing wrong with trying to have hope. But man, I look at the schedule and I am finding it hard to see a win. I know any given Sunday but I just don't see it. I can almost guarantee we will be 0-4. Chargers have a very improved O line and there D is decent with good DB's. Plus we will be on the road, so you know our O will not be at the same level as they are in the dome.

Bottom line is, I am trying to have hope also but it is getting harder and harder to hold on to it.
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Old 09-27-2016, 02:38 PM   #45
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So you have decided that this one game is all the sample size I'm using after back to back losing seasons and an 0-3 start this year? Try again.

54 passes to get to 354 yards proves my point, however. That is horribly inefficient, and that happens too often. We had two punts, a turnover on downs and an interception which came on one of those predictable plays. That throw simply should never have been made but he tried to force it in, anyway.

That's four stops. How many times did we stop the Falcons? Is their offense better than ours? If so, that's embarrassing.

But how about last week's performance? Where was this vaunted offense when we needed them then? The offensive line is light years away from where it used to be in the glory days, but just as big of a problem has been this check down passing game and all the predictability. The aggressive play calling shows up sporadically and then disappears for long stretches.
In 2014 the Saints had the #1 offense in the league.
In 2015 the Saints had the #2 offense in the league.
How "inefficient" are they if they're a top 2 offense in the league?
And you're saying if the top offense in the league is better than ours, it's "embarrassing"?

And as for the offensive line, they has allowed only 4 sacks so far this season. Only five teams have fewer. 10 teams have already doubled that or more. And the Saints, as a team, are averaging 4.2 yards per carry. Only 8 teams are averaging more than that. The teams passer rating (Drew) is 105.1 4th best in the league. The offensive line is a lot closer to being great than it is to being bad by any realistic definition.

Again, if you're "frustrated" or "embarrassed" by what the offense is doing, you're in for a lot of disappointment in your NFL expectations.
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Old 09-27-2016, 02:55 PM   #46
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In 2014 the Saints had the #1 offense in the league.
In 2015 the Saints had the #2 offense in the league.
No offense but that stat is a load of rubbish. Gaining yards doesnt win games. In 2014 the Saints offense was 9th and in 15 8th by points scored. That is all a offense should be judge on
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Do you really believe this?
I do.
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Old 09-27-2016, 03:09 PM   #48
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No offense but that stat is a load of rubbish. Gaining yards doesnt win games. In 2014 the Saints offense was 9th and in 15 8th by points scored. That is all a offense should be judge on
No offense taken. Yards are the usual metric by which both offenses and defenses are measured but even going by points scored those offenses are in the top third of the league. So I'll stick to my point, to be "embarrassed" or "frustrated" by being in the top third is unrealistic at best.
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Old 09-27-2016, 03:12 PM   #49
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I don't see more than 4 wins. This defense is childish. Makes you wonder how they can look at themselves in the mirror. It's like they have something else on their minds, other than football. How can pride about yourself, not come into individual performance? Good Lord, this team is terrible. Call me what you will, but this team is a gimped horse.

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Old 09-27-2016, 04:33 PM   #50
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In 2014 the Saints had the #1 offense in the league.
In 2015 the Saints had the #2 offense in the league.
How "inefficient" are they if they're a top 2 offense in the league?
And you're saying if the top offense in the league is better than ours, it's "embarrassing"?

And as for the offensive line, they has allowed only 4 sacks so far this season. Only five teams have fewer. 10 teams have already doubled that or more. And the Saints, as a team, are averaging 4.2 yards per carry. Only 8 teams are averaging more than that. The teams passer rating (Drew) is 105.1 4th best in the league. The offensive line is a lot closer to being great than it is to being bad by any realistic definition.

Again, if you're "frustrated" or "embarrassed" by what the offense is doing, you're in for a lot of disappointment in your NFL expectations.
This isn't fantasy football. Offensive rank is based on yards alone. We threw the ball 54 times last night.... You find me a team that throws the ball 50 plus times and doesn't put up at least 400 yards. Defenses are going to give up yards in this league, with the the rules, especially when the ball is being thrown that much. That extends the game tremendously. Running the ball runs clock.

And yeah, I know what the team is averaging in yards per rush. So why do we abandon it when it is actually working, and go back to dumping the ball off to guys who are being swarmed over? Frustrating, is it not?

We have not been elite in scoring points for a few years now. Above average, yes, but with the amount of money invested in Drew and his toys it's really not near what it should be.

And yes, anytime you have the Falcons ranking ahead of you, it's embarrassing. They have a QB known for choking, and a coaching staff that isn't exactly known for it's offensive prowess.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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