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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Think we'll all agree that changes need to be made, but before we throw the babes out with the bathwater, do we have better available to us? Coaches, Players, General Managers, Scouts et al, is there better available? There's no ...

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Old 09-30-2016, 10:14 PM   #11
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Re: Time for Saints defensive personnel changes, plus other First-and-10 tidbits

Think we'll all agree that changes need to be made, but before we throw the babes out with the bathwater, do we have better available to us?

Coaches, Players, General Managers, Scouts et al, is there better available?

There's no question that the results demand changes, but who? what? when?
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Old 09-30-2016, 11:13 PM   #12
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Re: Time for Saints defensive personnel changes, plus other First-and-10 tidbits

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Think we'll all agree that changes need to be made, but before we throw the babes out with the bathwater, do we have better available to us?

Coaches, Players, General Managers, Scouts et al, is there better available?

There's no question that the results demand changes, but who? what? when?
Always the million dollar question.
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Old 10-01-2016, 01:07 PM   #13
 
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Think we'll all agree that changes need to be made, but before we throw the babes out with the bathwater, do we have better available to us?

Coaches, Players, General Managers, Scouts et al, is there better available?

There's no question that the results demand changes, but who? what? when?
All points to the organization and its management. Look no further then how the Patriots are run. Ultimately, it's Tom Benson who should recognize this and take action on. As successful as he's been, maybe he's not working to win anymore as he once said he was.
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Old 10-04-2016, 08:59 PM   #14
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All points to the organization and its management. Look no further then how the Patriots are run. Ultimately, it's Tom Benson who should recognize this and take action on. As successful as he's been, maybe he's not working to win anymore as he once said he was.
BINGO.

Robert Kraft is why the Patriots are winners. Ownership means more to stability than anything (see Cleveland Browns) and Mr. Benson is aged, arguably lacks competence and has let his organization become another middling franchise.

When I say change at the top I mean the VERY top.
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:37 PM   #15
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I'm still baffled as to why Anthony is on the bench and nobody is even mentioning it. At least give him enough plays so prospected trade teams can have something to watch. If you aren't going to use your first rounder fine, but at least dangle him out there for trade bait if he doesn't fit here. He showed enough last year to warrant some interest.
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Old 10-04-2016, 11:16 PM   #16
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Bellichick doesn't sugarcoat **** either he's black & white when it comes to evaluating talent on the Loss to the Bills in his press conference he said (no quote) that Nothing we did was good enough offense defense ST NOTHING was good enough its no secrecy to his game/player evaluations because he's honest & the truth. Honesty & Truth ALWAYS resonates well with people
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Old 10-05-2016, 10:56 AM   #17
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I must say it, I missed Greg Williams
Not necessarily GW so much as having smart LB's in Vilma, Fujita and regardless of how much crap he got Shanle was always where he needed to be.
And as far as this argument about taking 3-4 LB's and making them play 4-3 what about Vilma? He didn't have a problem doing it. The game is just as much mental as it is physical.
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I hate to admit it but it is time for a change from the top down.
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Old 10-10-2016, 01:20 PM   #19
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Not necessarily GW so much as having smart LB's in Vilma, Fujita and regardless of how much crap he got Shanle was always where he needed to be.
And as far as this argument about taking 3-4 LB's and making them play 4-3 what about Vilma? He didn't have a problem doing it. The game is just as much mental as it is physical.
It's important to remember that Vilma got hurt for a good portion of 2010 and 2011, we had Dunbar starting very often. In addition, Fujita left after 2009 and was replaced by Danny Clark in 2010 and Casillas in 2011. The 2010 Defense was ranked 4th overall, the 2011 defense was also very stout. We should have won another SB in 2011 if it wasn't for the 5 turnover fluke against the 49ers.

Greg Williams just knows how to coach his players and put them in the right spots; something we have not been able to do since.
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