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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Just wow. Let's blame the defense because Payton's cute playcalling constantly puts Carolina back on the field. I have seen enough we just don't do on offense what we used to do. A top five defense ...

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Old 10-16-2016, 10:20 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 View Post
Just wow. Let's blame the defense because Payton's cute playcalling constantly puts Carolina back on the field. I have seen enough we just don't do on offense what we used to do.

A top five defense forces four straight punts. This is not a top five defense and we knew that, we said with a top 20 defense we were good enough to win. Payton is trying to hold something back on offense for whatever he has planned. I'm guessing Seattle. Thomas, Snead, Cooks, Ingram alone are good enough to win without having to kill drives with Hill, Cadet. Hill cost us two drives, yes he scores but the redzone doesn't matter, anyone on this offense can score in the redzone but they can't move the chains enough.
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We're 4th best in the NFL on converting 3rd downs.
Will makes a good point; we were up 21 pts and Payton decides to roll the Rookie kicker out for an ~55+ yard kick rather than convert a 4th and short...

Payton has got to put teams away; that missed field goal was a high risk and it gave Sham Newton great field position which they took advantage...

If he didn't think we could convert, then he shoulda punted as a long field goal like that wasn't necessary and a conversion and continued drive could have really put a nail in this thing and kept our defense off the field longer...

Danno is correct in so far that we do move up and down at times, but when we needed conversions and time of possession, the offense faltered and the team let the Panthers back in the game...

It starts with the coaching decisions and game management...
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We're 4th best in the NFL on converting 3rd downs.
Now now, don't destroy a good story by bringing actual facts...
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I'm just happy we won 2 in a row.
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We're 4th best in the NFL on converting 3rd downs.
And we scored 40 points against what is still a pretty damn good defense. How on earth can anyone blame the offense???? It's the offenses job to score points and that's what they do.
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Not just words, but action...

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How do we know Sean was calling plays & not Pete?...IJS
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How do we know Sean was calling plays & not Pete?...IJS
FWIW ...

Pete Carmichael, not Sean Payton, calling plays for Saints | ProFootballTalk
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it really doesnt matter whos calling plays as long as brees puts it on the money, but it seems when he gets too much on a roll he gets careless, it could be the play caller getting to greedy also, the brees pick for example.every thing were clicking on passes then one to many and boom drive killer. it could have been a run that play and we keep drive alive.

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He is 100% correct; I hope he makes Byrd stay overnight!
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That's awesome. Now teach them how to tackle.
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