Don't think our defense is improving?

burningmetal · 11-06-2016, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

They gave up 480 yards to THE LAST RANKED OFFENSE.

No they aren't getting better, I was at the game and you could see all the blown coverages. It's the play calling, there was no way some of those players could make a play.

Yeah, as bad as the tackling was at times, you're right that the scheme was terrible. When no one is within 10 yards of the ball, you know somebody guessed badly wrong. And when it happens over and over again, it becomes apparent that the staff is not prepared. It was just pitch and catch.

When there was even half decent coverage, or pressure, Kaeperstick would sail the ball to nowhere in particular. It shows he has no idea how to read defenses. You just have to MAKE him think out there. Too much of the time, he didn't have anything to think about.

voodooido · 11-06-2016, 11:36 PM

Defense is improved from last year there is no doubt. It will take a lot more though for us to make the playoffs. Denver then Carolina over the next two weeks. Should tell us a lot about this team. It will take 10-6 this year to sniff the playoffs.

burningmetal · 11-06-2016, 11:43 PM

I don't know, man. Like I said in another post, this is a very mediocre year for the league. I think 9-7 will easily get someone in. If we finish with that record, let's just hope there aren't too many teams tied with us. I suspect a lot of these teams will continue to fade, though. 9-7 should be good enough, but it would be nice to get in more comfortably, of course.

RailBoss · 11-07-2016, 01:06 AM

Still missing that key Field General on the field on Defense like the role Vilma played.

spkb25 · 11-07-2016, 05:09 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

They gave up 486 yards to a struggling offense today, in just 21 minutes of game time. I'm trying to see the improvement, but it's not showing up.

I do give a certain amount of slack for injuries, but there aren't enough guys out for this kind of performance. I've had moments were I thought I was seeing them turn a corner, but each time they take a step back.

Fair assessment and I agree. I felt like we had really turned a corner, but today was a massive step backward.

spkb25 · 11-07-2016, 05:45 AM

alright, here are the D numbers. we are currently letting up 5 less yards per game than last season and exactly the same amount of ppg. but we are 30th in both categories, so there you have it. improvement, i think so

hagan714 · 11-07-2016, 06:09 AM

The secondary is killing us as we all know.

I like our bench as a bench. As for the starters? I am still concerned.

So yet another year were Drew is our best defense.

neugey · 11-07-2016, 06:37 AM

Political Squidworth just threw for almost 400 yards on us. Our saving grace apparently was forcing and recovering fumbling. Need to be better than that.

Crusader · 11-07-2016, 07:16 AM

I am no expert on defensive coverages but it looked like a lot of the struggles in the first half were in Zone-coverage when switching responsibilities.

I was encouraged by the fact that we created a bunch of turnovers.

K Major · 11-07-2016, 07:54 AM

Meh ... the pass rush is nearly non existent. Covering crossing routes (TE's) and the read options is also an issue.
Denver's QB (Trevor S.) isn't nearly as athletic as Kaep however he is mobile. I see potential problems with rolling pockets.

11-06-2016, 11:10 PM	#11
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Don't think our defense is improving? Originally Posted by blackangold They gave up 480 yards to THE LAST RANKED OFFENSE. No they aren't getting better, I was at the game and you could see all the blown coverages. It's the play calling, there was no way some of those players could make a play. Yeah, as bad as the tackling was at times, you're right that the scheme was terrible. When no one is within 10 yards of the ball, you know somebody guessed badly wrong. And when it happens over and over again, it becomes apparent that the staff is not prepared. It was just pitch and catch. When there was even half decent coverage, or pressure, Kaeperstick would sail the ball to nowhere in particular. It shows he has no idea how to read defenses. You just have to MAKE him think out there. Too much of the time, he didn't have anything to think about.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-06-2016, 11:36 PM	#12
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,739	Re: Don't think our defense is improving? Defense is improved from last year there is no doubt. It will take a lot more though for us to make the playoffs. Denver then Carolina over the next two weeks. Should tell us a lot about this team. It will take 10-6 this year to sniff the playoffs. Saint in Aus likes this.
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11-06-2016, 11:43 PM	#13
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Don't think our defense is improving? I don't know, man. Like I said in another post, this is a very mediocre year for the league. I think 9-7 will easily get someone in. If we finish with that record, let's just hope there aren't too many teams tied with us. I suspect a lot of these teams will continue to fade, though. 9-7 should be good enough, but it would be nice to get in more comfortably, of course.

11-07-2016, 01:06 AM	#14
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: Don't think our defense is improving? Still missing that key Field General on the field on Defense like the role Vilma played. jnormand, dizzle88 and 44Champs like this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Don't think our defense is improving? Originally Posted by burningmetal They gave up 486 yards to a struggling offense today, in just 21 minutes of game time. I'm trying to see the improvement, but it's not showing up. I do give a certain amount of slack for injuries, but there aren't enough guys out for this kind of performance. I've had moments were I thought I was seeing them turn a corner, but each time they take a step back. Fair assessment and I agree. I felt like we had really turned a corner, but today was a massive step backward.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Don't think our defense is improving? alright, here are the D numbers. we are currently letting up 5 less yards per game than last season and exactly the same amount of ppg. but we are 30th in both categories, so there you have it. improvement, i think so

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