If SP gets fired who do we want to replace him?

saintfan · 12-06-2016, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

So we should be happy with "middling" over the past 4 years? Another 7-9 or 6-10 season should seal his fate.

Happy? Well, yeah. Sean and Drew have a lot to do with why. Look, since they arrived, from day 1 up to last Sunday, we have a shot. It is true we play down to our competition sometimes. And like I said I won't get in to all the circumstances -- too much passion.

There are many levels of satisfaction. I might require my team to make the playoffs every year for example. Of course that is not realistic. Having been a Braves fan from the 70s and a Saints fan all my life, I'm well versed in what it's like to know *right now* that my team will suck next year too. It's why I'm "Happy" to know we will compete (defensive issues not withstanding, of course). We will compete this weekend. This team with a few breaks is leading the division by a game, even if you consider the unmentioned 'circumstances'.

We're young, by and large. We know exactly where our problem areas are. Once we get healthy we will have a better idea of our depth than most. And our depth will have time served under fire. Carolina and Atlanta will be no better next year. The Bucs might be. We might be too. In fact I think we will be. Because of our 'circumstances', we will have a favorable schedule.

Yeah. I'm happy. But more to the point I have something to be excited about.

RaginCajun83 · 12-06-2016, 08:39 PM

Get your logic out of here

RailBoss · 12-06-2016, 08:44 PM

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neugey · 12-06-2016, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

It has been quite clear for some time that Sean will not be fired.

But for the sake of entertainment, I have what I believe to be a plausible scenario if he did get fired. Mike McCarthy... Not super exciting, but there are plenty of reasons why it could happen.

From what I understand, McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers are not exactly the best of friends. Rodgers (if the numerous rumors have any truth) apparently thinks that he is the man in Green Bay, and that Mike is just an idiot who gets in his way. IF that is true, coupled with the somewhat rough season they have had, I could see the Packers moving on from McCarthy.

If Payton got fired, I think McCarthy might even want to leave Green Bay to take the Saints job, if offered, if his relationship with Rodgers is that toxic. He has history here, Benson knows him, and he is a good offensive guy who'd undoubtedly love to have a guy like Brees if he were to move on from GB.

I'd view it as somewhat of a lateral move on our part, but it might be one of those things where both Payton and McCarthy need a change of scenery to re-energize. I don't see the Saints trying anyone without NFL head coaching experience, as long as Brees is here.

But again, Payton will not be going anywhere. I would not be surprised if McCarthy does leave or get fired, though.

McCarthy has one of the same problems as Payton - he can't decide whether he wants to call the offensive plays or not!

spkb25 · 12-07-2016, 05:52 AM

chip kelly?

burningmetal · 12-07-2016, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by neugey

McCarthy has one of the same problems as Payton - he can't decide whether he wants to call the offensive plays or not!

I know. But it's something that I just see as a would-be possibility, if Payton got fired. I'm not enamored with McCarthy, but he's got a very similar resume to Sean, and if Payton got fired I think management would look to get someone similar to him. The logic would be giving McCarthy a fresh start here. That is what a lot of people think that Payton needs, because while we pile of offensive stats, the team always seems to be a mess. He seems too comfortable, letting all of his ole pals hang around despite their poor track record.

The thing is, Benson doesn't seem to care about any of that. He obviously feels indebted to this staff, so he just let's it go.

RailBoss · 12-07-2016, 07:13 AM

Right what does Mr. Benson care as the say the "asses in the seats are full". Besides he's busier fighting off his family members.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-07-2016, 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

chip kelly?

Not funny. Not funny at all....

SFIAH

K Major · 12-07-2016, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

chip kelly?

Laughable.

Seer1 · 12-07-2016, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

Right what does Mr. Benson care as the say the "asses in the seats are full". Besides he's busier fighting off his family members.

True the second part, but it's merchandise and network appeal instead of seat sales now. The more you win, the more folks watch the more the Saints go nationwide instead of local and in come more bucks. Seat sales quit being a driving factor about the same time the Saints figured out they could get better players from across the state lines. Draw shmaw.

12-06-2016, 07:51 PM	#21
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: If SP gets fired who do we want to replace him? Originally Posted by voodooido So we should be happy with "middling" over the past 4 years? Another 7-9 or 6-10 season should seal his fate. Happy? Well, yeah. Sean and Drew have a lot to do with why. Look, since they arrived, from day 1 up to last Sunday, we have a shot. It is true we play down to our competition sometimes. And like I said I won't get in to all the circumstances -- too much passion. There are many levels of satisfaction. I might require my team to make the playoffs every year for example. Of course that is not realistic. Having been a Braves fan from the 70s and a Saints fan all my life, I'm well versed in what it's like to know right now that my team will suck next year too. It's why I'm "Happy" to know we will compete (defensive issues not withstanding, of course). We will compete this weekend. This team with a few breaks is leading the division by a game, even if you consider the unmentioned 'circumstances'. We're young, by and large. We know exactly where our problem areas are. Once we get healthy we will have a better idea of our depth than most. And our depth will have time served under fire. Carolina and Atlanta will be no better next year. The Bucs might be. We might be too. In fact I think we will be. Because of our 'circumstances', we will have a favorable schedule. Yeah. I'm happy. But more to the point I have something to be excited about.
	C'mon Man...

12-06-2016, 08:39 PM	#22
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: If SP gets fired who do we want to replace him? Get your logic out of here Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-06-2016, 10:50 PM	#24
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,591 Blog Entries: 13	Re: If SP gets fired who do we want to replace him? Originally Posted by burningmetal It has been quite clear for some time that Sean will not be fired. But for the sake of entertainment, I have what I believe to be a plausible scenario if he did get fired. Mike McCarthy... Not super exciting, but there are plenty of reasons why it could happen. From what I understand, McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers are not exactly the best of friends. Rodgers (if the numerous rumors have any truth) apparently thinks that he is the man in Green Bay, and that Mike is just an idiot who gets in his way. IF that is true, coupled with the somewhat rough season they have had, I could see the Packers moving on from McCarthy. If Payton got fired, I think McCarthy might even want to leave Green Bay to take the Saints job, if offered, if his relationship with Rodgers is that toxic. He has history here, Benson knows him, and he is a good offensive guy who'd undoubtedly love to have a guy like Brees if he were to move on from GB. I'd view it as somewhat of a lateral move on our part, but it might be one of those things where both Payton and McCarthy need a change of scenery to re-energize. I don't see the Saints trying anyone without NFL head coaching experience, as long as Brees is here. But again, Payton will not be going anywhere. I would not be surprised if McCarthy does leave or get fired, though. McCarthy has one of the same problems as Payton - he can't decide whether he wants to call the offensive plays or not!

12-07-2016, 05:52 AM	#25
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: If SP gets fired who do we want to replace him? chip kelly?

12-07-2016, 06:25 AM	#26
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: If SP gets fired who do we want to replace him? Originally Posted by neugey McCarthy has one of the same problems as Payton - he can't decide whether he wants to call the offensive plays or not! I know. But it's something that I just see as a would-be possibility, if Payton got fired. I'm not enamored with McCarthy, but he's got a very similar resume to Sean, and if Payton got fired I think management would look to get someone similar to him. The logic would be giving McCarthy a fresh start here. That is what a lot of people think that Payton needs, because while we pile of offensive stats, the team always seems to be a mess. He seems too comfortable, letting all of his ole pals hang around despite their poor track record. The thing is, Benson doesn't seem to care about any of that. He obviously feels indebted to this staff, so he just let's it go.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: If SP gets fired who do we want to replace him? Originally Posted by RailBoss Right what does Mr. Benson care as the say the "asses in the seats are full". Besides he's busier fighting off his family members. True the second part, but it's merchandise and network appeal instead of seat sales now. The more you win, the more folks watch the more the Saints go nationwide instead of local and in come more bucks. Seat sales quit being a driving factor about the same time the Saints figured out they could get better players from across the state lines. Draw shmaw.

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