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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I knew we were gonna lose this game or week 16. The thing is, we had a chance to win this game. I feel Brees thinks he's entitled . He obviously wants someone to give him ...

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Old 12-11-2016, 10:41 PM   #21
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I knew we were gonna lose this game or week 16. The thing is, we had a chance to win this game. I feel Brees thinks he's entitled. He obviously wants someone to give him a reason to win. He's not young hungry qb anymore. I think he played better with that. Suddenly our team has to move hell and thunder for him to win. He needs short fields or he can't win.
This isn't all on Brees. Two TD passes were dropped. Sean Payton refuses to mix in the run; even when the game is close, or just needing a yard to continue a drive. Not to mention clock management.

This game was on the head coach.
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Old 12-12-2016, 12:57 AM   #22
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Its the offense that's killing us, has been for quite a lot of the season.

13 points in Lions game
13 points in the Giants game
11 points in this game

Not to mention Brees has 6 picks and 0 TD's in the last 2 weeks, the whole offense has 13 turnovers in the last 6 games, ridiculous.

Cooks complaining and then misses 2 easy TD's. He is a "decent" player but not irreplaceable, I'm ready for the team to clean house and start again.
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Old 12-12-2016, 04:44 AM   #23
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Fleener has been a big shat stain all season.
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Old 12-12-2016, 04:46 AM   #24
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I was thinking on those dropped balls by Cooks... He was probably like, "damn, I just talked all that crap and I've dropped these balls." Trade him while we can I say, not sure how that rookie contract affects that.

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Its the offense that's killing us, has been for quite a lot of the season.

13 points in Lions game
13 points in the Giants game
11 points in this game

Not to mention Brees has 6 picks and 0 TD's in the last 2 weeks, the whole offense has 13 turnovers in the last 6 games, ridiculous.

Cooks complaining and then misses 2 easy TD's. He is a "decent" player but not irreplaceable, I'm ready for the team to clean house and start again.
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Old 12-12-2016, 05:17 AM   #25
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Wondering if Brees may be banged up, he doesn't have the same zip on the ball that he had earlier in the year. I just don't know how to explain a QB like him having such bad games with the season on the line...
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Old 12-12-2016, 06:47 AM   #26
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Wondering if Brees may be banged up, he doesn't have the same zip on the ball that he had earlier in the year. I just don't know how to explain a QB like him having such bad games with the season on the line...
Good point...and of course the team would never disclose that information.
I thought I noticed Brees rubbing his right hand a few times in the second half.
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Old 12-12-2016, 07:02 AM   #27
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The interior of the offensive line was horrible yesterday for three and a half quarters. The run game was horrible because of it so Payton does what he always does and abandoned it for the short passing game. I know for a fact that two of the ints were thrown against the same coverage, nickel robber, where the FS comes down. They knew we were going to throw deep so they took their chances.
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Old 12-12-2016, 07:06 AM   #28
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-Refs were clearly one-sided again.
-Poor clock management. Wasted timeouts.
-3rd and 1. Empty back set. Horrible.
-Front four is competing. Fairley is a must re-sign.
-Robertson was missed.
-Bucs knew what the Saints were running and where the passes were going most of the day.
-Lutz is a franchise kicker.
-Ingram will tease and have his moments, but that's all.
-Coleman is vastly improved.
-Snead has taken a step back.
-For Cooks to be the man he thinks he is, he's got to dive for the long ball and not get alligator arms over the middle.
-Love Breaux. Appears to just be injury prone.
-Bell is a keeper.
-Payton needs to give up the play calling.
-TommyLee needs some snaps.
-Fleener is not a franchise TE. Another LARGE miss by the GM.
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- When you're down, vulnerable, you can't let the officials be a factor - smaller market teams lose everytime unless you're one of the league's pets like the Packers, Steelers, or Ravens...

- Payton's got some insecurity issues that he needs to address; asskissing poster of Benson hung at Saints HQ; taking over playcalling and falling apart in games; dating MS West Virginia, nearly half his age...

- Craig Robertson, Nick Fairley, and Sterling Moore have earned contracts with Moore's a little tricky...

- Cooks will be fine, he's just pressing as is Brees, Payton...

- Vonn Bell is already as good as what he got out of Byrd this season...

- Tommylee is a fine player, but Murphy would be more versatile and the coaches needs to get him right...

- Fleener is the same deal with Byrd; former team's fans are laughing, relieved they were no longer their headaches...
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Old 12-12-2016, 09:02 AM   #30
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Originally Posted by Cruize View Post
-Refs were clearly one-sided again.
-Poor clock management. Wasted timeouts.
-3rd and 1. Empty back set. Horrible.
-Front four is competing. Fairley is a must re-sign.
-Robertson was missed.
-Bucs knew what the Saints were running and where the passes were going most of the day.
-Lutz is a franchise kicker.
-Ingram will tease and have his moments, but that's all.
-Coleman is vastly improved.
-Snead has taken a step back.
-For Cooks to be the man he thinks he is, he's got to dive for the long ball and not get alligator arms over the middle.
-Love Breaux. Appears to just be injury prone.
-Bell is a keeper.
-Payton needs to give up the play calling.
-TommyLee needs some snaps.
-Fleener is not a franchise TE. Another LARGE miss by the GM.
U hit the nail on the head. all these 3rd and ones and we come out in the shotgun. I would rather make it a 4th down situation and run straight up the middle twice. Three times in a row on 3rd and 1 we come out in the gun. I absolutely don't want Payten gone but he was trippin on this one.
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