An early look at the 2017 NO Saints free agents

halloween 65 · 12-14-2016, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

From Hightower or Lasco?

Maybe it's just me but I think Hightower has been an outstanding #2 back and can fill in for Ingram at a moments notice without much, if any, loss. At $840k, he seems like a pretty good bargain.

I got to agree here on Hightower, and will add he's looked better than Ingram at times. I would love to see us with a sledge hammer type back to wear out opposing D's but Payton being a pass happy coach I'm typing in vein.

dizzle88 · 12-14-2016, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

You say that and I gotta scratch my head...

What exactly are your expectations for a guy that makes a minimum with his experience?

And contributes in several facets of the kicking game?

And is playing the scatback role with four other running backs on the roster?

Are you expecting him to perform like Sproles?

If there were a better player who executed in practice as well as he does, don't you think he'd be playing ahead of Cadet?

Executing in practice is fine, it's the fact that he's awful during the game that I have a problem with.

Payton has a certain attachment to people who underperform and still he keeps them around - Cadet, Coleman, Vitt, McMahon to name a few.

Spiller was tons better than him in training camp and preseason, all this "Cadet knows the system" nonsense really bugs me, great he knows the offense, so do the bucs, falcons and panthers. They catch more passes against us than Cadet does for us.

jeanpierre · 12-15-2016, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Executing in practice is fine, it's the fact that he's awful during the game that I have a problem with.

Payton has a certain attachment to people who underperform and still he keeps them around - Cadet, Coleman, Vitt, McMahon to name a few.

Spiller was tons better than him in training camp and preseason, all this "Cadet knows the system" nonsense really bugs me, great he knows the offense, so do the bucs, falcons and panthers. They catch more passes against us than Cadet does for us.

It's kinda big deal, Dizz; it can get a quarterback killed or cause a turnover...

Rugby Saint II · 12-19-2016, 05:24 PM

Every time Cadet is on the field I feel like we are playing with ten men on the field. I have no hope.....make that zero percent that Cadet will ever make an impact on this team. His impact is usually minimal and he only does well when he's not game planned for. I cringe when I hear his name. I'll gladly pay more money for a better player. Cut him and don't look back.

hagan714 · 12-19-2016, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I'd still be leary of committing too much to Fairley...

So am I. This could be a contract year performance and then he goes for the big bucks. The question will be, has he changed or will he go right back to the player he was in Detroit?

If I were the saints I would go performance based contract and keep tabs on

Johnathan Hankins NY Giants 25 / 6'2' / 320

NYG spent a lot of cash on signings FA for the DL last year. He might just slip out of town. Hankins is much better against the run and collapsing the pocket.

If the contracts requests are even close I would sign Hankins

SmashMouth · 12-19-2016, 08:51 PM

Cadet has improved ... but not sold on Webb.

jeanpierre · 12-20-2016, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Cadet has improved ... but not sold on Webb.

Smash totally agree with you here...

Like a 5 CB set of Del Breaux, PJ Williams, Sterling Moore, Ken Crawley and De'Vante Harris with Damain Swann (if healthy) switching to Free Safety and able to play some CB as necessary...

Bring in Webb for camp...

Cadet is becoming our Kevin Faulk...

12-14-2016, 02:25 PM	#11
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: An early look at the 2017 NO Saints free agents Originally Posted by Utah_Saint From Hightower or Lasco? Maybe it's just me but I think Hightower has been an outstanding #2 back and can fill in for Ingram at a moments notice without much, if any, loss. At $840k, he seems like a pretty good bargain. I got to agree here on Hightower, and will add he's looked better than Ingram at times. I would love to see us with a sledge hammer type back to wear out opposing D's but Payton being a pass happy coach I'm typing in vein.

12-14-2016, 02:53 PM	#12
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: An early look at the 2017 NO Saints free agents Originally Posted by jeanpierre You say that and I gotta scratch my head... What exactly are your expectations for a guy that makes a minimum with his experience? And contributes in several facets of the kicking game? And is playing the scatback role with four other running backs on the roster? Are you expecting him to perform like Sproles? If there were a better player who executed in practice as well as he does, don't you think he'd be playing ahead of Cadet? Executing in practice is fine, it's the fact that he's awful during the game that I have a problem with. Payton has a certain attachment to people who underperform and still he keeps them around - Cadet, Coleman, Vitt, McMahon to name a few. Spiller was tons better than him in training camp and preseason, all this "Cadet knows the system" nonsense really bugs me, great he knows the offense, so do the bucs, falcons and panthers. They catch more passes against us than Cadet does for us. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-15-2016, 08:58 AM	#13
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: An early look at the 2017 NO Saints free agents Originally Posted by dizzle88 Executing in practice is fine, it's the fact that he's awful during the game that I have a problem with. Payton has a certain attachment to people who underperform and still he keeps them around - Cadet, Coleman, Vitt, McMahon to name a few. Spiller was tons better than him in training camp and preseason, all this "Cadet knows the system" nonsense really bugs me, great he knows the offense, so do the bucs, falcons and panthers. They catch more passes against us than Cadet does for us. It's kinda big deal, Dizz; it can get a quarterback killed or cause a turnover...

12-19-2016, 05:24 PM	#14
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,720	Re: An early look at the 2017 NO Saints free agents Every time Cadet is on the field I feel like we are playing with ten men on the field. I have no hope.....make that zero percent that Cadet will ever make an impact on this team. His impact is usually minimal and he only does well when he's not game planned for. I cringe when I hear his name. I'll gladly pay more money for a better player. Cut him and don't look back. halloween 65 likes this.

12-19-2016, 06:58 PM	#15
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: An early look at the 2017 NO Saints free agents Originally Posted by jeanpierre I'd still be leary of committing too much to Fairley... So am I. This could be a contract year performance and then he goes for the big bucks. The question will be, has he changed or will he go right back to the player he was in Detroit? If I were the saints I would go performance based contract and keep tabs on Johnathan Hankins NY Giants 25 / 6'2' / 320 NYG spent a lot of cash on signings FA for the DL last year. He might just slip out of town. Hankins is much better against the run and collapsing the pocket. If the contracts requests are even close I would sign Hankins
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12-19-2016, 08:51 PM	#16
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 36,958 Blog Entries: 29	Re: An early look at the 2017 NO Saints free agents Cadet has improved ... but not sold on Webb.

12-20-2016, 09:27 AM	#17
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: An early look at the 2017 NO Saints free agents Originally Posted by SmashMouth Cadet has improved ... but not sold on Webb. Smash totally agree with you here... Like a 5 CB set of Del Breaux, PJ Williams, Sterling Moore, Ken Crawley and De'Vante Harris with Damain Swann (if healthy) switching to Free Safety and able to play some CB as necessary... Bring in Webb for camp... Cadet is becoming our Kevin Faulk...