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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major The Giants front office must have missed that memo. good for the Giants,lol, I don't think we need any other wasted contracts....

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Old 01-03-2017, 04:56 AM   #21
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The Giants front office must have missed that memo.
good for the Giants,lol, I don't think we need any other wasted contracts.
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Old 01-03-2017, 05:06 AM   #22
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For me, we've got a great pair of CB with Del Breaux and P.J. Williams, bring back Sterling Moore as the nickel and with Crawley and Harris coming back - we're there; besides you're gonna need cap space to extend these guys contracts soon...

Simply, we've got better CBs on our roster already...

To me the FA money on defense would be better spent on the front seven, decreasing the exposure time of the secondary...

Leary will live in the hot tub once he gets paid based on his time already and this is the most he's been available in this his contract year; he's benefitted playing with All-Pros on either side of him; RL will already be 28 and you'll have to contract him through till his 32, bad deal and don't trust him...

T.J. Lang will be thirty years old next season.

Definitely need a younger, impact option at Right Guard and Kevin Zeitler is the answer; No. 4 rated OG who could have a higher ceiling on the Saints offense vs the Bengals; think of the impact he'd have between Unger and Strief; have seen a playes where Cincy RBs have rode him to the end zone from 5-8 yds out the past few seasons; he's a gamer and be worth every penny...

Martellus Bennett is a big mouth who's inconsistent and would cause disharmony in the locker room. Look at the sh*t Cooks caused for asking for the ball - think of what Bennett would be like - NO THANKS. But you're right, Fleener is gonna cut it...

Charles Johnson's game is no where near what it was; he was cut and re-signed to a one year deal and he'll be 31 next season - Draft a younger, faster, stronger DE...
I am not arguing to spend big on a CB in Free Agency, but PJ Williams has been in the field for like 1.5 games in 2 years. Yes he had potential, but no idea how long he can remain on the field.

I have no idea what we have in Breaux any longer, he didn't seem very good after coming back from injury. Hope that was timing from being off and then a new injury, hope he can get back to what we had before that, but right now we have very suspect CB's, again. Glad Kenny served his four game suspension.

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Old 01-03-2017, 07:12 AM   #23
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I am not arguing to spend big on a CB in Free Agency, but PJ Williams has been in the field for like 1.5 games in 2 years. Yes he had potential, but no idea how long he can remain on the field.

I have no idea what we have in Breaux any longer, he didn't seem very good after coming back from injury. Hope that was timing from being off and then a new injury, hope he can get back to what we had before that, but right now we have very suspect CB's, again. Glad Kenny served his four game suspension.
Spike, Brother wipe your eyes and realized the freakish sh*t that happened!

Beaux came back despite multiple injuries and yet still gamed it up...

I mean, damn, PJ Williams essentially got kicked in the head by a horse!

And don't forget Sterling Moore fell into our laps...

Plus you've got two really good rookies in Crawley and Harris who just need playing time for seasoning...

And if you're gonna spend, don't do it like they do in MLB and say, okay we'll take the fifth best FA and pro rate that amount of money based on the market...

None of the FA CBs there are as good as we already have...

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Old 01-03-2017, 11:59 AM   #24
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Hagan and I talked about this on another thread...

I'd love to have the guy, but he's a restricted free agent, so there's that...

Hagan feels like we have enough linebackers missing time - fair enough...

I say, at the very least, get a real linebackers coach in here...

Vitt has no more excuses, we spent a first round pick on a terrfic talent - who's regressed and all of a sudden has no instincts...BS

With everyone healthy this is who we have under contract, now...

SLB (2) 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 42 - Travis Feeney

MLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 52 - Craig Robertson

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar

So unless we start moving Kikaha and Anthony to 3-4 teams - we're looking pretty good right now, already...
Kikaha kind of scares me. He has already had 3 major surgeries on his knees and has only played a hand full of games his first year. Just don't know if he's gonna stay healthy enough to even take up a roster spot 2 years down the road. I would have a legit contengency plane
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RG Zeitler is my choice for the one player I want.
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Need to get Terrelle Pryor. Keep him as a WR4, returner and backup QB.
He's likely a good WR3, probably could beat out Snead. High dollar but would save coin long term.
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Need to get Terrelle Pryor. Keep him as a WR4, returner and backup QB.
He's likely a good WR3, probably could beat out Snead. High dollar but would save coin long term.
Pryor will probably get paid like a #1 and I don't believe for one second that the Browns will let him go. He has been one of very few bright spots for them this year.
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Spike, Brother wipe your eyes and realized the freakish sh*t that happened!

Beaux came back despite multiple injuries and yet still gamed it up...

I mean, damn, PJ Williams essentially got kicked in the head by a horse!

And don't forget Sterling Moore fell into our laps...

Plus you've got two really good rookies in Crawley and Harris who just need playing time for seasoning...

And if you're gonna spend, don't do it like they do in MLB and say, okay we'll take the fifth best FA and pro rate that amount of money based on the market...

None of the FA CBs there are as good as we already have...
I'd argue Johnson is better than Breaux and Gilmore is better than everybody else. That injury bug is a problem.
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Old 01-03-2017, 03:12 PM   #29
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The Giants front office must have missed that memo.
NYG might just let their DT hit the open market since they spent so much on the DL in 2016. Nice back up option.

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Old 01-03-2017, 03:25 PM   #30
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I am not arguing to spend big on a CB in Free Agency, but PJ Williams has been in the field for like 1.5 games in 2 years. Yes he had potential, but no idea how long he can remain on the field.

I have no idea what we have in Breaux any longer, he didn't seem very good after coming back from injury. Hope that was timing from being off and then a new injury, hope he can get back to what we had before that, but right now we have very suspect CB's, again. Glad Kenny served his four game suspension.
I would argue against FA CB for the most part based on the CB in the draft with solid builds. just to name a few

Marlon Humphrey CB/FS Alabama 6005 196 4.49 #26 rSo
Quincy Wilson CB/FS Florida 6012 211 4.54 #6 Jr
Cordrea Tankersley CB/FS Clemson 6002 195 4.48 #25
Gareon Conley CB OSU 6002 195 4.50 #8 rJr
Tre'Davious White, CB, LSU 5111 191 4.48 Jr
Brandon Facyson CB Virginia Tech 6011 191 4.52 #31 Jr
Chidobe Awuzie CB Colorado 5113 205 4.56 #4 Sr
Rasul Douglas CB West Virginia:6012 208 4.56 #13 rSr
Fabian Moreau CB UCLA 5115 200 4.52 #10 rSr
Treston Decoud CB Oregon State 6020 4.54 208 #14 Sr

I would not mind the saints using multiple picks on the secondary players.

Shame to waste to much on defense that no matter what will still be going through growing pain.
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