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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I heard Wade Phillips was a free agent. I realize all the 3-4 vs 4-3 stuff, but the rest is just **** all until Sean files for divorce from all his sister wives and gets some decent people on the ...

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Old 01-03-2017, 03:47 PM   #31
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I heard Wade Phillips was a free agent. I realize all the 3-4 vs 4-3 stuff, but the rest is just **** all until Sean files for divorce from all his sister wives and gets some decent people on the coaching staff.

If you need any more proof look at what Spags is doing with the Giants. WTF? If the defensive coordinator fails here and then soars elsewhere, it's gotta be his untouchable underlings.
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Old 01-03-2017, 04:25 PM   #32
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Seeing a lot of posts about us being fine with CB depth... I disagree.

Your top 3 CBs are essentially starting in the current NFL, Moore is not a starting caliber CB. Not to mention if we take 1 injury to the top 3 we are sunk. We do have some depth beyond that but most of our CBs seem to be injury prone. I strongly believe we need to draft/sign a solid #2 CB and put PJ at the #3 CB spot.
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Old 01-03-2017, 06:49 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by blackangold View Post
Seeing a lot of posts about us being fine with CB depth... I disagree.

Your top 3 CBs are essentially starting in the current NFL, Moore is not a starting caliber CB. Not to mention if we take 1 injury to the top 3 we are sunk. We do have some depth beyond that but most of our CBs seem to be injury prone. I strongly believe we need to draft/sign a solid #2 CB and put PJ at the #3 CB spot.
No one in the NFL (and that includes Seattle's Sherman) was more effective against Julio Jones and Mike Evans than Sterling Moore this year...
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Old 01-03-2017, 07:51 PM   #34
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Originally Posted by Seer1 View Post
If you need any more proof look at what Spags is doing with the Giants. WTF? If the defensive coordinator fails here and then soars elsewhere, it's gotta be his untouchable underlings.
Totally disagree on Spags.

Refresher quiz for you: What was the only team worse in total defense last year than the Saints??

The G-men spent a TON of money this off season.... Jenoris Jenkins, Vernon, "Snacks" Harrison, Landon Collins (solid draft selection). Every last one of these guys are all impact players at their respective position. Giants have 2 CBs that would both be considered the #1 CB for the Saints. They probably have more defensive talent than any team in the league this season.

Safe to say, it's a lot easier for Spaggs to shine with that group on D.

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Old 01-03-2017, 08:39 PM   #35
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I am not arguing to spend big on a CB in Free Agency, but PJ Williams has been in the field for like 1.5 games in 2 years. Yes he had potential, but no idea how long he can remain on the field.

I have no idea what we have in Breaux any longer, he didn't seem very good after coming back from injury. Hope that was timing from being off and then a new injury, hope he can get back to what we had before that, but right now we have very suspect CB's, again. Glad Kenny served his four game suspension.
I have never been comfortable with Breaux as a starter. I like his story but it like we are banking on him being a number one based on his rookie year. Next to Browner anyone would look good. Breaux drew a lot of penalties last year and his play did drop off towards the end of the year.

I have no idea why anyone would have any faith in Breaux as a number one. Maybe he can be, but I wouldnt go around thinking we have that side of the field taken care of. Still a lot of unknown surrounding him. We need immediete help on offensive line, and definitely a proven pass rusher.

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Old 01-03-2017, 09:01 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Spike, Brother wipe your eyes and realized the freakish sh*t that happened!

Beaux came back despite multiple injuries and yet still gamed it up...

I mean, damn, PJ Williams essentially got kicked in the head by a horse!

And don't forget Sterling Moore fell into our laps...

Plus you've got two really good rookies in Crawley and Harris who just need playing time for seasoning...

And if you're gonna spend, don't do it like they do in MLB and say, okay we'll take the fifth best FA and pro rate that amount of money based on the market...

None of the FA CBs there are as good as we already have...
PJ Williams missed his entire rookie season due to injury and played 1.5 games this year before the same. Are you kidding me? I hope it doesn't happen again, but **** man that's far too frequently.

Breaux had the broken leg, what other injuries happened? I mean he went to IR, but I didn't know of anything besides those 2
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Old 01-04-2017, 07:07 AM   #38
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JAMIE COLLINS, MIDDLE LINEBACKER, CLEVELAND BROWNS
Big ticket and a bit of a head case does not equal a Pats player nor should it for the saints

JABAAL SHEARD, DEFENSIVE END, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
75% chance he will stay a Pat

A.J. BOUYE, CORNERBACK, HOUSTON TEXANS
My gut says he will get a huge contract on the open market

KEVIN ZEITLER, OFFENSIVE GUARD, CINCINNATI BENGALS
Bingo.

DONT’A HIGHTOWER, INSIDE LINEBACKER, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
When healthy is a huge factor

MELVIN INGRAM, OUTSIDE LINEBACKER / EDGE RUSHER, SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
Edge rusher sure. OLB? not so sure. over pricing a one trick pony is not what this defense needs.

ZACH BROWN, INSIDE LINEBACKER, BUFFALO BILLS
Interesting player I over looked him

BRIAN WINTERS, OFFENSIVE RIGHT GUARD, NEW YORK JETS
Bit of a injury history but a solid player

BARKEVIOUS MINGO, OUTSIDE LINEBACKER / EDGE RUSHER, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
He could not get it going with the pats. back up player at the best.

T.J. LANG, OFFENSIVE GUARD, GREEN BAY PACKERS
Bit long in the tooth and injuries are becoming common place.

A.J. KLEIN, MIDDLE LINEBACKER, CAROLINA PANTHERS
My pick jack of all trades and mastering them all

TRUMAINE JOHNSON, CORNERBACK, LOS ANGELES RAMS
Too much money
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
Jamie Collins would be worth every penny.
I'll be surprised if the Saints FO pay top dollar (his agent will command) for a LB given all the other things we need.

I'd prefer they add more players like Craig Robertson type ability to ensure depth in addition to drafting a guy.

Side note: I recall reading an article that claims Jamie doesn't truly love football anymore and the passion is gone. Chandler Jones and Jamie made comments that they play Madden during their downtime. Next thing we see is Jamie shipped to Cleveland and Chandler to AZ.

I'd be careful here ...
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:38 PM   #40
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I hope we go back to addressing holes with the 2nd tier guys in free agency (and late round trades) like we did with Jabari Greer, Keenan Lewis, Fujita, Dave Thomas, Ben Watson, Darren Shraper, Hargrove, Joe Horn, Heath Evans, Robertson, Goodwin etc...

Enough of the high dollar splash signings. Fill holes with adequate guys, draft well, and if an occasional stud becomes available via trade or free agency (Vilma, Brees etc) then make that plunge.
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