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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido PJ being full go doesn't surprise me at all. He was most likely full go before the season was over, but because of all the other injuries he was forced onto the IR prematurely. This is ...

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Old 04-18-2017, 11:13 AM   #211
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PJ being full go doesn't surprise me at all. He was most likely full go before the season was over, but because of all the other injuries he was forced onto the IR prematurely. This is why I hope the NFL institutes an IR system somewhat like that of baseball where any player can be returned. Pat Kirwin of NFL Radio has been lobbying for that for some time now. The only reason it is the way it is now is because the NFL was worried about teams stashing away players with fake injuries. That can be easily addressed with an independent medical examiner that can give approval for players going on and coming off IR.
The NFL's apprehensiveness of further litigation regarding chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) also has to factor into post-concussion protocols...

Look, most everyone is ready to throw the towel in on PJ. Why?!? But take a second and look at that play - a horse could have kicked him with the same result...

Sean Payton in interview as quoted by Nola.com, "It's a concussion, but yet it's one significant enough that you wouldn't really see on a normal basis...He'll be able to make a full recovery. He'll be able to return to football in the offseason, and yet I would say probably one of the more severe concussions that I've seen. It's not measured by just on the field, the series of tests they do that they're able to determine how much trauma in the event, and this is one where the rest and recovery is going to be necessary. And all the experts really take a peek at all the different slides and scans, and so that made the decision then to put him on IR obviously an easy one -- and yet challenging."

I don't expect them to make an IR exemption for concussions as they could be made culpable in further litigation...

And look, P.J. has showed he's a gamer. A soldier. He'd want to get right back out there; but who's gonna assume the liability if he's out there in four to six weeks?

IR-No Return is the best answer with those concussion injuries...

I'll be really pulling for him to come back with an outstanding season like he had in the Raiders game and show that he was a steal in the third round...

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 NFL Draft

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, WR 19 - Jake Lampmann, 00 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - John Fullington

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 00 - Ted Ginn, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp , 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Travis Feeney

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 31 - Rafael Bush, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 00 - Jesse Schmitt


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Offense - 32; Defense - 39; Kicking - 3

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Yeah, it may only be two days since update, but it's AP and thought everyone would appreciate seeing Adrian Peterson on our depth chart...


SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 NFL Draft

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, WR 19 - Jake Lampmann, 00 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - John Fullington

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 00 - Ted Ginn, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp , 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 57 - Alex Okafor, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Travis Feeney

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun

FS (3) 48 - Vonn Bell, 31 - Rafael Bush, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 37 - Chris Banjo, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 00 - Jesse Schmitt


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Offense - 32; Defense - 39; Kicking - 3
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Draft Day - Day One, Day Two...

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 NFL Draft

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 00 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, WR 19 - Jake Lampmann, 00 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 73 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 65 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32)

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 00 - Ted Ginn, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp , 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 97 - Alex Okafor, 99 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 58 - Obum Gwacham, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Travis Feeney

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun

FS (3) 20 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 31 - Rafael Bush, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 48 - Vonn Bell, 37 - Chris Banjo, 30 - Erik Harris, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 2 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 25 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 00 - Jesse Schmitt


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Rookie (Acquired)

Offense - 33; Defense - 41; Kicking - 3

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 NFL Draft

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 00 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, WR 19 - Jake Lampmann, 00 - Rashad Lawrence

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 73 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 65 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32)

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 00 - Ted Ginn, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Rookie (Acquired)

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SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 NFL Draft

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 55 - Darryl Tapp , 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 97 - Alex Okafor, 99 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 58 - Obum Gwacham, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

MLB (2) 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 52 - Craig Robertson, 42 - Travis Feeney

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun

FS (3) 20 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 31 - Rafael Bush, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 48 - Vonn Bell, 37 - Chris Banjo, 30 - Erik Harris, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 2 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 25 - P.J. Williams, 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Rookie (Acquired)
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If Nolan can't get Anthony turned around, it sounds like Anzalone should have no trouble stepping in there if his injury problems are truly behind him. In fact, between Ellerbe's love of the trainers and Anthony's regression, he could be seeing a lot of playing time.
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Post-Draft, Day+1

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2017 NFL Draft

OFFENSE

QB (2) 9 - Drew Brees, 10 - Chase Daniel, 18 - Garrett Grayson

FB (1) 29 - John Kuhn, 00 - John Robinson (UDFA),

RB (4) 22 - Mark Ingram, 28 - Adrian Peterson, 00 - Alvin Kamara (R3, P67), 36 - Daniel Lasco, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 11 - Corey Fuller, 16 - Brandon Coleman, WR 19 - Jake Lampmann, 00 - Rashad Lawrence, 00 - Ahmad Fulwood (UDFA)

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 00 - Andrew Lauderdale (UDFA), 00 - Cameron Lee (UDFA), 00 - Collin Buchanan (UDFA)

LG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 73 - John Fullington, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 00 - Cameron Tom (UDFA)

RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 00 - Cameron Lee (UDFA)

RT (2) 64 - Zach Strief, 65 - Ryan Ramcyzk (R1, P32), 00 - Clint VanHorn (UDFA)

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 86 - John Phillips, 85 - Jake Stoneburner, 45 - Garrett Griffin

SR (2) 83 - Willie Snead (ERFA), 00 - Ted Ginn, 87 - Tommylee Lewis, 81 - Jordan Williams, 00 - Travin Dural (UDFA)

DEFENSE

DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 99 -Trey Hendrickson (R3, P103), 55 - Darryl Tapp , 76 - Mitchell Loewen

DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer, 00 - Devaroe Lawrence (UDFA)

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

DE (2) 97 - Alex Okafor, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 61 - Royce LeFrance

SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 54 - Nate Stupar, 00 - Sae Tautu (UDFA)

MLB (3) 52 - Craig Robertson, 58 - A.J. Klein, 00 - Manti Te'o, 00 - Adam Bighill

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 00 - Alex Anzalone (R3, P76), 42 - Travis Feeney

LCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 20 - Ken Crawley, 37 - Chris Banjo, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt, 39 - Taveze Calhoun, 00 - Arthur Maulet (UDFA)

FS (3) 20 - Marcus Williams (R2, P42), 31 - Rafael Bush, 49 - Shiloh Keo, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 48 - Vonn Bell, 30 - Erik Harris, 00 - Forrest Hightower

RCB (3) 25 - P.J. Williams, 00 - Marshon Lattimore (R1, P11), 24 - Sterling Moore, 21 - De’Vante Harris, 27 - Damian Swann, 00 - Anthony Gaitor

KICKING

K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 00 - Jesse Schmitt, 00 - Chase Dominguez (UDFA)


Key:

Projected Starter

Free Agent Addition or Extension

Rookie (Acquired)

Offense - 44; Defense - 46; Kicking - 4

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Old 04-30-2017, 02:30 PM   #219
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one problem I see jeanpierre Payton has said he sees Anzalone as a weakside LB for us.
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You have Te'o listed in the middle. How does he do working the sides?
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