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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Here's the thing with this year's draft - Will Cleveland, San Francisco and Chicago stay disciplined and take the BPA or will owner's and luxury suite/season ticket politics push these teams to reach for QBs??? I ...

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Old 02-18-2017, 11:40 PM   #91
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Re: 2017 New Orleans Saints Draft - Scouting Prospect Visits, Bowl Games

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Here's the thing with this year's draft - Will Cleveland, San Francisco and Chicago stay disciplined and take the BPA or will owner's and luxury suite/season ticket politics push these teams to reach for QBs???

I suspect that if one takes a QB, you'll see an early run because you have two other playoff teams downstream Texans & Broncos who are feeling that their QBs are limiting their respective team's success...

Not to mention you've got two potential playoff teams in the Jets and Bills who are directly limited by their QB play...

Then you've got 'Zona who'd really like to get some youth at the position and not deal with the imminent retirement and fragility of Carson Palmer any longer...

So there's teams there who'll pull the trigger and maybe don't want to draft overrated QBs in Watson and Kizer...
I would not be surprised to see all the QB still on the board at 11

which would be a good thing. Browns probably would use that second first on the #1 rated QB on their board. So if any team below them, say the cards? then a quick flip of picks that involve a few places would be an option. I still love our spot. Any way I do the mock we are always sitting good.
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Old 02-20-2017, 10:35 AM   #92
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A lot of those teams'll be drafting after us. How will those effect the available players in the positions we really need at #11?
It's more the latter teams would not be reaching for some of those quarterbacks which may make those in front of us reach and allow some impact defenders to fall to us...
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Old 02-20-2017, 10:36 AM   #93
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2017 New Orleans Saints Draft Prospects, by round, with favorites high-lighted (Updated 2017/02/20)

No. 11 (R1, 11) LB Reuben Foster, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 236 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) CB Marlon Humphrey, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 196 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) TE O.J. Howard, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) RT Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 316 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) DL Malik McDowell, Michigan St; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 276 lbs.

No. 44 (R2, 10) DE Jordan Willis, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 260 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) WR Cooper Kupp, Eastern Washington; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 198 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) CB Adoree’ Jackson, USC; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 185 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) SS Obi Melifonwu, LSU; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 219 lbs.

No. 74 (R3, 12) DT Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 320 lbs. (+)
No. 74 (R3, 12) OG Nico Siragusa, San Diego St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 330 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) CB Rasul Douglas, West Virginia; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 208 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) RT Chad Wheeler, USC; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 315 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Tarell Basham, Ohio; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 262 lbs.

No. 109 (R4, 11) TE Adam Shaheen, Ashland; Height: 6’ 6”, Weight: 277 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) LB Elijah Lee, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 225 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 280 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) OG Erik Magnuson, Michigan; Height 6’ 4”, Weight 305 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Nazair Jones, North Carolina; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 295 lbs.

No. 150 (R5, 12) Traded to the Washington Redskins
No. 150 (R5, 12) DE Collin Bevins, NW Missouri St; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 295 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) C Jon Toth, Kentucky; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) DE Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 255 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) FB James Connor, Pitt; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 245 lbs. (+)

No. 185 (R6, 10) RG Sean Harlow, Oregon St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) LB Dylan Donahue West Georgia; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) RB Elijah McGuire, UL-Lafayette; Height: 5’ 9”, Weight: 215 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) TE Eric Saubert, Drake; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 247 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) P Austin Rehkow, Idaho; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 205 lbs.

No. 233 (R7, 11) SS Dallas Lloyd, Stanford; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) OL Ben Braden, Michigan; Height: 6’ 6”, Weight: 335 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) CB Ezra Robinson, Tennessee St/Michigan St; Height: 5’ 11”, Weight: 185 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) DE Deatrich Wise Jr., Arkansas; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 275 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) LB Ben Boulware, Clemson; Height: 6’ 0”, Weight: 235 lbs.

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Old 02-21-2017, 10:25 PM   #94
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2017 New Orleans Saints Draft Prospects, by round, with favorites highlighted (Updated 2017/02/20)

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No. 11 (R1, 11) LB Reuben Foster, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 236 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) CB Marlon Humphrey, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 1"; Weight: 196 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) TE O.J. Howard, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) RT Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 5"; Weight: 316 lbs.
No. 11 (R1, 11) DL Malik McDowell, Michigan St; Height: 6' 6"; Weight: 276 lbs.

No. 44 (R2, 10) CB Adoree’ Jackson, USC; Height: 5' 11", Weight: 185 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) OG Dan Feeney, Indiana; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) LB T.J. Watt, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) WR Cooper Kupp, E. Washington; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 198 lbs.
No. 44 (R2, 10) SS Obi Melifonwu, LSU; Height: 6' 3", Weight: 219 lbs.

No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Jordan Willis, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 260 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) OG Nico Siragusa, San Diego St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 330 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) CB Chidobe Awuzie, Colorado; Height: 6' 0", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) RT Chad Wheeler, USC; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 315 lbs.
No. 74 (R3, 12) DE Tarell Basham, Ohio; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 262 lbs.

No. 109 (R4, 11) FS Lorenzo Jerome, St. Francis (PA); Height 5’ 10”, Weight 202 lbs.[/COLOR]
No. 109 (R4, 11) LB Elijah Lee, Kansas St; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 225 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) DT Eddie Vanderdoes, UCLA; Height: 6’ 3”, Weight: 320 lbs. [COLOR="red"](+)
No. 109 (R4, 11) DE Tanoh Kpassagnon, Villanova; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 280 lbs.
No. 109 (R4, 11) OG Erik Magnuson, Michigan; Height 6’ 4”, Weight 305 lbs.

No. 150 (R5, 12) Traded to the Washington Redskins
No. 150 (R5, 12) TE Adam Shaheen, Ashland; Height: 6’ 6”, Weight: 277 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) DE Nazair Jones, North Carolina; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 295 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) C Jon Toth, Kentucky; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 150 (R5, 12) DE Trey Hendrickson, Florida Atlantic; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 255 lbs.

No. 185 (R6, 10) RB Elijah McGuire, UL-Lafayette; Height: 5’ 9”, Weight: 215 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) DE Collin Bevins, NW Missouri St; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 295 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) LB Dylan Donahue West Georgia; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 245 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) DE Deatrich Wise Jr., Arkansas; Height: 6’ 5”, Weight: 275 lbs.
No. 185 (R6, 10) TE Eric Saubert, Drake; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 247 lbs.

No. 233 (R7, 11) RG Sean Harlow, Oregon St; Height: 6’ 4”, Weight: 310 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) OL Ben Braden, Michigan; Height: 6’ 6”, Weight: 335 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) CB Jeremy Cutrer, Middle Tennessee St; Height: 6’ 2”, Weight: 180 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) SS Dallas Lloyd, Stanford; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 205 lbs.
No. 233 (R7, 11) LB Ben Boulware, Clemson; Height: 6’ 0”, Weight: 235 lbs.

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Old 02-22-2017, 03:22 AM   #95
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I think you need to add Taco Charlton to your #11 draft pick prospects.
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I think you need to add Taco Charlton to your #11 draft pick prospects.
Charlton at No. 11? He's gonna have to do something special at the combine...
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Charlton at No. 11? He's gonna have to do something special at the combine...
Shoulda done something special much earlier than that....
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
I think you need to add Taco Charlton to your #11 draft pick prospects.
Taco is going to be good with some coaching but he's still too raw to take at #11. There will be better options available I believe.
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Old 02-22-2017, 11:52 AM   #99
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Taco is going to be good with some coaching but he's still too raw to take at #11. There will be better options available I believe.
Anytime I see the word raw, SJB comes to mind. I recall Mayock saying "raw" quite a few times in his pre draft evaluations on him. At pick #11, we need to draft a kid (see Rankins) ready to start & make an impact from week 1.

I'm with you on Taco ... pass.
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Old 03-11-2017, 07:40 AM   #100
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Alright guys, let's take a break from crying about the Cooks trade and talk about something more productive... We have an extra 1st round pick! Who are some late 1st round players you like that probably wouldn't have still been on the board when our 2nd round pick rolled around?

Maybe Charles Harris? TJ Watt? Adoree Jackson?
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