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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major Anyone interested in Tim Williams @ pick #11? Is he ha 3-4 guy? Character concerns? Thoughts? Reportedly has Randy Gregory-esque issues. Failed multiple drug tests at Alabama to go along with the gun charge....

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Old 02-14-2017, 03:34 PM   #41
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Anyone interested in Tim Williams @ pick #11? Is he ha 3-4 guy? Character concerns?

Thoughts?
Reportedly has Randy Gregory-esque issues. Failed multiple drug tests at Alabama to go along with the gun charge.
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Pick #11 is gonna be very interesting.
And the Saints brass will mess that up by drafting a FullBack from LSU..

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And the Saints brass will mess that up by drafting a FullBack from anywhere but LSU..

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Re: What the mock drafts are saying about the Saints' pick at No. 11

I believe we go DE & LB (not necessarily in that order) the first two rounds.

A lot of mock reports have LF going to Carolina @ pick #8.
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A lot of mock reports have LF going to Carolina @ pick #8.
If that happens then it's all the more reason to get a real thumper like Foster to keep him in check!
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Reportedly has Randy Gregory-esque issues. Failed multiple drug tests at Alabama to go along with the gun charge.
Sorry to hear about those issues. I just watched some video of him and he looks incredible. I know it's a highlight package, but damn!
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Josh Katzenstein has some interesting selections. See link below:

New Orleans Saints mock drafts, version 1.0 | NOLA.com
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Imagine this young, powerful DE matched alongside Cam Jordan and rest of that D line ...

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Re: What the mock drafts are saying about the Saints' pick at No. 11

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Imagine this young, powerful DE matched alongside Cam Jordan and rest of that D line ...

https://youtu.be/qoJP2nFFH_k
Don't follow the PAC whatever much at all so I haven't really seen anything of this kid. What I struck me was he's really blue collar. Moves in there (really fast) lays down the wood and gets right back up and gets ready for the next play. No dancing, no celebrating except on a couple plays in the bowl game, just heads back ready for the next at bat. I could become a fan of this guy. What's his down side?
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What's his down side?

From NFL.com Draft profile

OVERVIEW
Thomas spent five years in Australia in his youth, but his return to the States allowed him to develop first into one of the top high school players in the country (top 25 recruit nationally) and then one of college's top defensive linemen. After a redshirt season, Thomas was named honorable mention All-Pac-12 in 2015 (39 tackles, 10.5 for loss, 3.5 sacks). He had four tackles, two for loss, and a sack in the Cardinal's win over Iowa in the Rose Bowl. The redshirt sophomore kicked his game up a notch in 2016, receiving multiple All-American honors and winning the Morris Trophy as the Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year. Thomas led the team with 62 tackles, 15 for loss, while sacking the quarterback eight times. Thomas' bowl performance against North Carolina opened a lot of eyes, as he was all over the field in the Cardinal's win in a way that isn't even reflected in an impressive stat line (seven tackles, two for loss, sack)

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Angular build, well-built frame. His mother, father and uncle were all collegiate athletes. Lined up at multiple positions. Has ravenous approach to the game. Gets out of the blocks quickly and attacks with early, skilled hands. Stays hungry and wants to feast. Powerful for his size. Shows ability to win with power or quickness. Outstanding athleticism. Fluid in his play. Transitions from move to move. Unpredictable pass rush. Attacks both the edges and can crank up a bull rush. Uses swipes, rips and arm-over to unlock his rush. Hands and feet work in unison. Has lightning-quick spin move he can access to unhinge from block and find new life in his rush. Violent disengagements from blocks leave no doubt blocker is whipped. Relentless approach combined with athleticism makes block recoveries extremely difficult in run or pass. Refuses extended engagements to blockers and works himself free. Will sniff out gaps and make himself skinny into the backfield. Very good pursuit speed and range as playmaker.

WEAKNESSES Considered a "tweeter" by scouts, who believe he could struggle to keep enough weight on his frame to play along interior. Length is below average as five-technique. Plays with inconsistent pad level. Needs to get bigger and stronger through his lower body. Tends to play taller as play rolls along and can get washed out of plays by strong down blocks. Hands are quick but need more consistent pop behind them. Overall play strength can be improved. "Big and strong" across from him causes some issues. Gets engulfed at times. Snap-count guesser with seven offsides penalties in 2016.

SOURCES TELL US Hes damn good. I dont think he gets drafted as early as you do because hes not big enough for inside and hes not as long as you like on the outside. You have to figure out where you will play him, but he wont stop. Hes going to be really productive. -- Director of scouting for AFC team

NFL COMPARISON Justin Smith

BOTTOM LINE Explosive defender who combines strength, quickness, and a muscle-car motor to drive him around the field making play after play. Has the hands and feet to be a quick-win specialist and the size to fit as a 4-3 or 3-4 defensive end who can reduce inside for pass-rush downs. He has all the athletic traits to become a high-impact player and possesses more than enough skill and talent to believe he will continue to elevate his game as a pro. Thomas has the potential to become the best defender from this draft class and a future all-pro.

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