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bignic26 03-20-2005 12:29 AM

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I want the answer. I want the truth. I"m 23 years old. That's 23 years of pain. That's 23 years of suffering. That's 23 years of being a Saints fan. Can someone out there tell me why after all these years the Saints haven't made a deep playoff run?

I've never expected them to win a Super Bowl, I'm not asking for miracles. I have no delusions. But is too much to ask for them to win a few playoff games? To make it to the NFC championship at least? If the Cubs can make it to game 7 of the NLCS and the Red Sox can win the World Series, why can't the Saints make a playoff run?

What's the answer. What's the reason? A curse? Bad coaching, bad players, bad owners? I've been a Saints fan for 23 years. If you cut my arm, my blood would be balck and gold. For 23 years I've watched them destroy the hopes and dreams of a nation of Saints fans. I thank God that I cant remember the first four or five of my 23 years. I take comfort in the fact that there are alot of old poor souls that have lived through this pain alot longer than I have.

Can one of you older seasoned vets give me the answer. Can one of you tell me why the Saints are doomed to failure no matter how good a team they have? I want your answers and I want to know the reason that we all keep rooting for a team that may never reach the promised land.

jnormand 03-20-2005 01:09 AM

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I can\'t tell you why the Saints can never make a run. You can blame it on management, player performances, a missed field goal, coaching, poor drafting, the list goes on and on.

I can tell you that lots of teams have gone through the dry spel (though few have had a dry spell for 30 years)l. The Saints will make it to the Super Bowl...eventually.

Why we keep rooting a team that never goes anywhere? Well, we are fans. Real fans don\'t jump to another wagon because their team sucks. The Bucs were an even bigger joke than the Saints until the last 5 or 6 years. You have to stick with them. The way I see it, when the Saints finally get over the hump and go to the SB, it\'ll make it that much better.

As far as the teams performance....well...um....no excuses. They have the set-up, just missing a few KEY pieces. I just go into every season hoping that they will get their sh*t together and make a run. The key: Have FAITH. Nothing else to say.

It is frustrating and irritating to watch a team that should do better, step on their d**ks and give the freakin game away. Or just get blown out. All I can say is, they will make it to a SB one day, just pray it is while they are in New Orleans.

JKool 03-20-2005 01:15 AM

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Voodoo.

JKool 03-20-2005 01:17 AM

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In all seriousness though, my best bet is that there is no one thing that has caused this. If I were to put money on it, I would even bet that it is different things in different years.

Saint_LB 03-20-2005 06:10 AM

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Mecom was a tight-wad, even worse than Benson. The team developed a reputaion as being losers during that time. Now it is hard to coax people to come play here, and the players are having difficulty shedding that \"losers\" label. That, combined with the curse, about sums it up.

ssmitty 03-20-2005 07:25 AM

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I want the answer. I want the truth. I\"m 23 years old. That\'s 23 years of pain. That\'s 23 years of suffering. That\'s 23 years of being a Saints fan. Can someone out there tell me why after all these years the Saints haven\'t made a deep playoff run?

I\'ve never expected them to win a Super Bowl, I\'m not asking for miracles. I have no delusions. But is too much to ask for them to win a few playoff games? To make it to the NFC championship at least? If the Cubs can make it to game 7 of the NLCS and the Red Sox can win the World Series, why can\'t the Saints make a playoff run?

What\'s the answer. What\'s the reason? A curse? Bad coaching, bad players, bad owners? I\'ve been a Saints fan for 23 years. If you cut my arm, my blood would be balck and gold. For 23 years I\'ve watched them destroy the hopes and dreams of a nation of Saints fans. I thank God that I cant remember the first four or five of my 23 years. I take comfort in the fact that there are alot of old poor souls that have lived through this pain alot longer than I have.

Can one of you older seasoned vets give me the answer. Can one of you tell me why the Saints are doomed to failure no matter how good a team they have? I want your answers and I want to know the reason that we all keep rooting for a team that may never reach the promised land.
23 yr old? i\'m curious as to how you could have watched and better yet remembered the saints say, from ages 1-7.....that\'s amazing............smitty

ssmitty 03-20-2005 07:29 AM

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my mistake, did not catch the last paragraph where you answered it. still amazing you can remember them from 5yrs. i don\'t remember much at that age........hell, i don\'t remember much at my present age............smitty

dberce1 03-20-2005 10:28 AM

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Two of the old popular rumors:

\"The Superdome is built on a graveyard. Bad Karma.\"

\"The Saints are run by the New Orleans Mafia. They will never win as long as all that money is on the line for them to lose.\"

Euphoria 03-20-2005 10:36 AM

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LOL... only 23 years... consider yourself lucky its only been 23 years for you.

LKelley67 03-20-2005 11:42 PM

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right as eup said, be thankful only that many years. i have been a saints fan since their inception. it took 20 years, my entire adolescence to a 2nd marriage and having kids, before they even had a winning record. 32-32 for four years? no problemo, these are glory years compared to then.

the mecom era and nfl were a different world then. many teams were as absolutely dreadful every year as playoff bound were the boys, raiders, etc. success comes even more now than then from the organization. the patriots certainly do not have a star studded lineup like previous dynasties. the steelers are never too far from contention year in and year out cuz of the front office. the niners had a change of ownership and front office before they crumbled to where they are now. you can see the rise n fall of organizations with the leaders and owners who come n go. the saints best years? jim finks a hall of fame exec. loomis? i am not betting on him being moses. benson as an owner? well, we are lucky there is a salary cap minimum as well as maximum.

they aren\'t doomed anymore than the red sox were doomed. it just takes the right organization. no troops go beyond their general\'s leadership.

take heart, the lions haven\'t been much or won a championship since 1957 and the cardinals not since 1947 when in chicago before arizona and st. louis. that\'s 10 and 20 years before the saints even were started.

all things even every team would win a super bowl every 32 years. let\'s just say the saints are 6 years overdue. LOL

keep the faith brutha,
ya got what it takes if you be a b&g nut and be a van gogh fan too

[Edited on 21/3/2005 by LKelley67]

bignic26 03-21-2005 12:39 PM

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Thanks for the kind words guys, you really comfort me. I wish we could all get together for one big Saints group hug... ;)

SaintFanInATLHELL 03-21-2005 01:04 PM

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I want the answer. I want the truth. I\"m 23 years old. That\'s 23 years of pain. That\'s 23 years of suffering. That\'s 23 years of being a Saints fan. Can someone out there tell me why after all these years the Saints haven\'t made a deep playoff run?
A deep playoff run requires all cylinders to be clicking and a bit of luck. The Saints have never had both going on together.

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I\'ve never expected them to win a Super Bowl, I\'m not asking for miracles. I have no delusions. But is too much to ask for them to win a few playoff games? To make it to the NFC championship at least? If the Cubs can make it to game 7 of the NLCS and the Red Sox can win the World Series, why can\'t the Saints make a playoff run?
Asked and answered.

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What\'s the answer. What\'s the reason? A curse? Bad coaching, bad players, bad owners?
All of the above along with generally poor general managership (except for Finks and
possibly Mueller)

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I\'ve been a Saints fan for 23 years. If you cut my arm, my blood would be balck and gold. For 23 years I\'ve watched them destroy the hopes and dreams of a nation of Saints fans. I thank God that I cant remember the first four or five of my 23 years. I take comfort in the fact that there are alot of old poor souls that have lived through this pain alot longer than I have.
I was a season ticket holder from the age of 7 until I went off to college. I pay my $185 a year for the priviledge to watch them and got to see the last two Falcon butt whuppings
in person

I know where you\'re coming from.

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Can one of you older seasoned vets give me the answer. Can one of you tell me why the Saints are doomed to failure no matter how good a team they have? I want your answers and I want to know the reason that we all keep rooting for a team that may never reach the promised land.
Our best chances was in the DOme Patrol early 90s. Best defense in the league. Not enough offense to sustain.

Poor defense is the problem now. We could go somewhere if we could get it to the middle of the pack.

SFIAH

LordOfEntropy 03-21-2005 04:44 PM

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\"The Superdome is built on a graveyard. Bad Karma.\"

\"The Saints are run by the New Orleans Mafia. They will never win as long as all that money is on the line for them to lose.\"
** The franchise gets an additional subsidy when sporting non-winning records. This is to maintain competitiveness in a weak market, courtesy of Baton Rouge.**

That\'s unsbustantied, and I don\'t believe it. They get the one subsidy only, which is well publicized, regardless of W/L ratio. Until someone proves otherwise, I\'ll continue to disbelive it.

But then you asked for theories, and this is one I\'ve heard before....

bignic26 03-21-2005 07:40 PM

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Good God, what the... LordofEntropy I think You are the reason for the Saints failures !!! To steal a line from Ahnuld in Preadator, \"You\'re one ugly motherf**ker\" :awe:

zachsaints52 03-21-2005 08:15 PM

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I have been a fan for about 3-4 years now(but will stick with them, only 15 right now, so will be a Saints fan until I die... or they move) You always hear about voodoo, and bad karma from there. But I believe, and I have stated this before, is that players just don\'t want to come here anymore. Like, look at the endings with Turley and Ricky, bot hended and they got very public too. And even though they both showed the rest of the world how they truly are, they still probably think the saints coulda treated it different.

bignic26 03-21-2005 08:34 PM

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That\'s a very good point zach. If I were a free agent and I had to pick between two teams, one of those teams a winner year in and year out, and the other a team with talent but never wins anything, I would most definitely choose the winner. That is of course if the winning team offered more money. If the losers offered more money then I would surely go there. If both teams offered the same amount, I would get my agent to pit the two teams against each other in a bidding war. Then I would sign the highest offer, unless a third team jumped in the mix and offered more than what I was about to agree to. :D

duece4pres 03-22-2005 01:37 AM

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THE VOODOO CURSE IS OVER BABY!! THIS IS THE YEAR THAT WE GO ALL THE WAY!!

LordOfEntropy 03-22-2005 05:33 AM

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Good God, what the... LordofEntropy I think You are the reason for the Saints failures !!! To steal a line from Ahnuld in Preadator, \"You\'re one ugly motherf**ker\" :awe:
I feel so purty when you woo me like that! I might have to put off marrying my cousin just to spend more time with you. That is, if B&B won\'t get jealous......

blackwidows 03-22-2005 04:10 PM

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Well only one dome team has won a superbowl so far. The lambs


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