Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday!

st thomas · 04-19-2017, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

WHO U CALLING A HACK, JACK no one is supposed to know the trade options like u.

honestly lee missed your post my prop to u brother

st thomas · 04-19-2017, 08:39 AM

i will trust my fellow who dats on the evaluation on butler , i never really followed the jazz on him after the pick in the superbowl. when he made the play was'nt he a back-up at that time then got thrust in the mix after that . looking at 6 picks in the nfl total? i know hes young and bellicheck wants to dump him to us, why. jus wonderin

The Dude · 04-19-2017, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

i will trust my fellow who dats on the evaluation on butler , i never really followed the jazz on him after the pick in the superbowl. when he made the play was'nt he a back-up at that time then got thrust in the mix after that . looking at 6 picks in the nfl total? i know hes young and bellicheck wants to dump him to us, why. jus wonderin

One play wonder? He did make the pro bowl prior to that. Maybe he breaks up a ton of plays.0

The Dude · 04-19-2017, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Do you not get it yet? You have had the whole thing explained several times. Nothing could be done until Butler was under contract so he could NEVER be part of the Cooks deal. You CANNOT trade a player not under contract.

Do you have a clue how it works at all?

No I get it. They could have signed him for the sole reason of trading. him at the time. Teams do it all the time jackass. They could have hashed it out before FA even began.

Also, the analysts were saying Sherman could cost less, like a second . Yes he's older but he would def be shut down for a couple of years. If we are in win now mode I say go that route.

lee909 · 04-19-2017, 09:01 AM

QBs throwing directly at Malcolm Butler went 44-84 for 52.4%, 655 yards, 4 TD, 4 INT, 7.8 YPA, 74.3 passer rating

From a Pats fan
Actually Butler was on Brandon Marshall for quite a bit of the first game this season, as well as Quincy Enunwa and it was by far his worst game this season--only game over 100 yards given up and 2 touchdowns, one each to Marshall and Enunwa. Which lends some credence to his struggles with larger receivers.

If that game is taken out he allowed (7 receptions / 119yards 2 TDs) opponent passer rating drops to 58.

He did redeem himself in the second Jets game with no catches allowed, 2 INTs and fumble recovery. While he moved around, he was on Marshall a bit

Problem is the NFC South is full of Giant receivers. So Breaux will be following Jones,Benjamin amd Evans around while Butler follows Gabriel and Jackson

Seer1 · 04-19-2017, 09:03 AM

I don't know that it would hurt to have a lucky player on our side...

AsylumGuido · 04-19-2017, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

No I get it. They could have signed him for the sole reason of trading. him at the time. Teams do it all the time jackass. They could have hashed it out before FA even began.

Also, the analysts were saying Sherman could cost less, like a second . Yes he's older but he would def be shut down for a couple of years. If we are in win now mode I say go that route.

No, you still don't get it. The Patriots had no say in the matter. They had a tender on Butler. Butler had not signed the tender, so he wasn't under contract. The Patriots couldn't just "sign him for the sole reason of trading him at the time." The Patriots couldn't do squat until Butler decided to sign the tender, which he just did weeks later.

CheramieIII · 04-19-2017, 11:00 AM

We should get Butler and if so won't draft a CB 1st but the best available probably round 2 pick. DE and future QB picks 11 and 32.

ScottF · 04-19-2017, 11:14 AM

The fact that he signed the tender yesterday might signal that he is getting moved very soon. No one believes he is going to play for $4 million, but at least the chicken-little-theorists who thought we'd lose the number 11 can relax

lee909 · 04-19-2017, 11:18 AM

Possibly or he realises he has no leverage and the Pats can hold him this year and next if they wanted to for about$8ml a year year with this year's 4 and next a franchise tag

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by st thomas WHO U CALLING A HACK, JACK no one is supposed to know the trade options like u. honestly lee missed your post my prop to u brother

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! i will trust my fellow who dats on the evaluation on butler , i never really followed the jazz on him after the pick in the superbowl. when he made the play was'nt he a back-up at that time then got thrust in the mix after that . looking at 6 picks in the nfl total? i know hes young and bellicheck wants to dump him to us, why. jus wonderin The Dude likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Do you not get it yet? You have had the whole thing explained several times. Nothing could be done until Butler was under contract so he could NEVER be part of the Cooks deal. You CANNOT trade a player not under contract. Do you have a clue how it works at all? No I get it. They could have signed him for the sole reason of trading. him at the time. Teams do it all the time jackass. They could have hashed it out before FA even began. Also, the analysts were saying Sherman could cost less, like a second . Yes he's older but he would def be shut down for a couple of years. If we are in win now mode I say go that route.
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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,717 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! QBs throwing directly at Malcolm Butler went 44-84 for 52.4%, 655 yards, 4 TD, 4 INT, 7.8 YPA, 74.3 passer rating From a Pats fan Actually Butler was on Brandon Marshall for quite a bit of the first game this season, as well as Quincy Enunwa and it was by far his worst game this season--only game over 100 yards given up and 2 touchdowns, one each to Marshall and Enunwa. Which lends some credence to his struggles with larger receivers. If that game is taken out he allowed (7 receptions / 119yards 2 TDs) opponent passer rating drops to 58. He did redeem himself in the second Jets game with no catches allowed, 2 INTs and fumble recovery. While he moved around, he was on Marshall a bit Problem is the NFC South is full of Giant receivers. So Breaux will be following Jones,Benjamin amd Evans around while Butler follows Gabriel and Jackson
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Originally Posted by The Dude No I get it. They could have signed him for the sole reason of trading. him at the time. Teams do it all the time jackass. They could have hashed it out before FA even began. Also, the analysts were saying Sherman could cost less, like a second . Yes he's older but he would def be shut down for a couple of years. If we are in win now mode I say go that route. No, you still don't get it. The Patriots had no say in the matter. They had a tender on Butler. Butler had not signed the tender, so he wasn't under contract. The Patriots couldn't just "sign him for the sole reason of trading him at the time." The Patriots couldn't do squat until Butler decided to sign the tender, which he just did weeks later. foreverfan likes this.

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,717 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Breaking: Malcolm Butler visiting Saints Thursday! Possibly or he realises he has no leverage and the Pats can hold him this year and next if they wanted to for about$8ml a year year with this year's 4 and next a franchise tag

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