Malcolm Butler could be the answer to the Saints' cornerback woes but at what price?

03-21-2017, 06:09 AM

This defense needs to many upgrades still to start this super bowl push signing mentality.

There are more questions than there is a need for that one last piece.

Get into the top 15 in any one defensive category first before thinking about shooting for the moon.

AsylumGuido · 03-21-2017, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

we need youth not 27 yo that are not worthy of a no 1 pick screw belicheck, he got us on cooks for a 32 please just keep butler. draft white or trade up for adams payton, let the lsu curse go. u would have 6 foot hieght in both and are pure atheletes with closing speed we have;nt seen sinse well sinse ah ah just get one of them.

What you are hearing is nothing more than speculation. There is absolutely no evidence that the Pats are asking for a first rounder from the Saints. None at all. It is all based upon the tender value, not any actual demand.

AsylumGuido · 03-21-2017, 07:46 AM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

If this trade go down and Malcolm Butler become a saint, I will be all in for Payton and Loomis being fired. As for trade, New England valued a undrafted corner for #11 pick and while Loomis and company value a legitimate 1st rd pick (which they traded up to obtain) for #32 and swap out a top 4th rd pick for a compensatory 3rd, Sound stupid? Cause it is stupid! And the sad thing is Malcolm is not even worth a 1st rd pick. If you look at a lot of highlights of anyone you will be brainwashed, look at Jason David, Brandon Browner, and Stanley Baptiste. LEAVE THE TABLE from New England, they screwed you once, don't give them seconds

Once again, there has not been any demand for the Saints' first round pick in exchange for Butler. NFL Network's Michael Lombardi posts a tweet that says it would cost the Saints their #11 pick based upon the tender value of the RFA tag on Butler and dimwitted bloggers take it as a supposed demand from the Patriots. Others, with a brain in their head, have said that the #11 pick would not be considered by any of the parties involved in an actual trade.

AsylumGuido · 03-21-2017, 07:49 AM

Sometimes I wonder if people ever read anything past the headline today. I read dozens of articles a day and headlines, and lead in paragraphs, seldom, if ever, convey the actual content, or context, of the "article".

Euphoria · 03-21-2017, 08:28 AM

Well I like what the Pats are doing... you can't do anything until the tender is signed. Looks like there was a rush and talks but they were in uncharted waters. They have been in enough trouble perhaps its why they have taken a step back in the talks. Once the tender is signed then they have leverage. They control the compensation for him.

Could all this sit and wait till after the draft and they get compensated next year? If I was NE I would say screw that we are going on in to win this year why would they let him go at that point. All the moves they have made this year is not the norm for them. They are going all in to repeat.

FinSaint · 03-21-2017, 08:30 AM

I wouldn't want them to give up a 1st round pick for him since they will have to give him a huge contract - certainly not the 11th pick.

But next year's 1st round pick could be acceptable if it meant the Saints could go far this season - as I've understood it, they can sign him at the eve of the draft and give up next year's 1st round pick.

K Major · 03-21-2017, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by aquaboogie

Lets just get Lester Hayes and some stickum.

Ole school at it's finest! AKA The Judge aka The legend and was one hell of a corner back.

QBREES9 · 03-21-2017, 12:52 PM

Is this ever going to happen.

03-21-2017, 06:09 AM	#31
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03-21-2017, 07:46 AM	#33
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Malcolm Butler could be the answer to the Saints' cornerback woes but at what price? Originally Posted by nola_swammi If this trade go down and Malcolm Butler become a saint, I will be all in for Payton and Loomis being fired. As for trade, New England valued a undrafted corner for #11 pick and while Loomis and company value a legitimate 1st rd pick (which they traded up to obtain) for #32 and swap out a top 4th rd pick for a compensatory 3rd, Sound stupid? Cause it is stupid! And the sad thing is Malcolm is not even worth a 1st rd pick. If you look at a lot of highlights of anyone you will be brainwashed, look at Jason David, Brandon Browner, and Stanley Baptiste. LEAVE THE TABLE from New England, they screwed you once, don't give them seconds Once again, there has not been any demand for the Saints' first round pick in exchange for Butler. NFL Network's Michael Lombardi posts a tweet that says it would cost the Saints their #11 pick based upon the tender value of the RFA tag on Butler and dimwitted bloggers take it as a supposed demand from the Patriots. Others, with a brain in their head, have said that the #11 pick would not be considered by any of the parties involved in an actual trade.

03-21-2017, 07:49 AM	#34
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Malcolm Butler could be the answer to the Saints' cornerback woes but at what price? Sometimes I wonder if people ever read anything past the headline today. I read dozens of articles a day and headlines, and lead in paragraphs, seldom, if ever, convey the actual content, or context, of the "article". jeanpierre and Saint in Aus like this.
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03-21-2017, 08:28 AM	#35
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Malcolm Butler could be the answer to the Saints' cornerback woes but at what price? Well I like what the Pats are doing... you can't do anything until the tender is signed. Looks like there was a rush and talks but they were in uncharted waters. They have been in enough trouble perhaps its why they have taken a step back in the talks. Once the tender is signed then they have leverage. They control the compensation for him. Could all this sit and wait till after the draft and they get compensated next year? If I was NE I would say screw that we are going on in to win this year why would they let him go at that point. All the moves they have made this year is not the norm for them. They are going all in to repeat.
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03-21-2017, 08:30 AM	#36
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03-21-2017, 07:41 AM	#32
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Malcolm Butler could be the answer to the Saints' cornerback woes but at what price? Originally Posted by st thomas we need youth not 27 yo that are not worthy of a no 1 pick screw belicheck, he got us on cooks for a 32 please just keep butler. draft white or trade up for adams payton, let the lsu curse go. u would have 6 foot hieght in both and are pure atheletes with closing speed we have;nt seen sinse well sinse ah ah just get one of them. What you are hearing is nothing more than speculation. There is absolutely no evidence that the Pats are asking for a first rounder from the Saints. None at all. It is all based upon the tender value, not any actual demand. SmashMouth and Saint in Aus like this.

03-21-2017, 08:58 AM	#37
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Malcolm Butler could be the answer to the Saints' cornerback woes but at what price? Originally Posted by aquaboogie Lets just get Lester Hayes and some stickum. Ole school at it's finest! AKA The Judge aka The legend and was one hell of a corner back.

03-21-2017, 12:52 PM	#38
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