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Attention Horn bashers

Joe Horn and Jerry Rice have very simular stats over a 4 year period. I think Joe Horn is just as good as Jerry Rice.

And I\'ve got STATS to prove it. Don\'t make me bust out my stats.

This ridiculous post is brought to the board to combat the popular logic of the Joe Horn LOVERS...

[Edited on 23/3/2005 by GumboBC]

Attention Horn bashers

Shadow you misunderstood. I meant lost it as in he\'s lost his mind, not his ability. I mean he\'s crazy for asking for top 3 money. I know he\'s one of the top receivers, just not one of the top 2 or 3 in the league.

I\'m not saying stats are useless in discussion. They are needed to compare players as far as production. But you can\'t base an argument about who\'s a better player on stats alone. For example, Muhsin Muhammad had better numbers than Horn, Moss, T.O., Harrison and every other receiver in the NFL. So by your logic one could assume that Muhammad is the best receiver in the league. And don\'t give me any BS about \"well you can\'t go by just last years stats\". If you want to determine who\'s a better player based on numbers alone then you can\'t make up new rules as you go.

Here\'s another example, Marty Booker. A few years ago Marty was putting up great numbers. I guess back then you would call him GREAT because of his numbers. Now what is he? A freaking bum. Was he a great WR? No, but he was the only option in the passing attack so he put up some numbers. But if you go by your logic Marty was a great WR because of his stats.

Once again I have proven that stats can be misleading. Numbers should be handled with care. Sometimes if you use them to much they get turned around on you and blow up in your face. ;)

Attention Horn bashers

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Some people on here wield numbers like they are the end all weapon for debate. Wrong. Stats can be used as a weapon but they can also be turned against you. Nobody who has any basic football sense would sit here and try to defend the posistion that Joe Horn is as good a player as Moss, T.O., Marvin, etc., etc. You can take your little stats, numbers, and silly analysis and use that against some nerd who knows nothing about football. Maybe they will be impressed by your data, but not me. The only thing that stats mean anything in is fantasy. Last year I dropped Jerry Porter and picked up Brandon Stokley because he was putting up better numbers. Does that mean that Stokley is a better receiver than Jerry Porter? :whip:

I love you, man.... :clap:

...and Stokley is better than Porter :)

Attention Horn bashers

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Whereas the opposing logic is what? Nevermind that the guy has gone to four of the last five Pro Bowls. Nevermind the fact that he was second in the league (out of first by 6 yards) this season. Nevermind that his numbers are getting better. All that stuff is meaningless. Horn is not a top WR and is only getting worse!!! Proof, you say? I have no proof, but it sounds like a good reason not to give him a new contract - which I don\'t want b/c I have an agenda. :)

Attention Horn bashers

WhoDat

Joe Horn is just as good as Jerry Rice. Just look at the damn stats. Don\'t be telling me I\'m a fool for saying it either.

LOOK AT THE DAMN STATS.

NUFF SAID!!

Attention Horn bashers

What\'s wrong Billy? Lose the goggle? Run out of Tang? I\'m sure by tomorrow your passion for unbridled and unfounded optimism will return. Fear not, you\'ll be predicting 13-3 in no time!

Attention Horn bashers

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What\'s wrong Billy? Lose the goggle? Run out of Tang? I\'m sure by tomorrow your passion for unbridled and unfounded optimism will return. Fear not, you\'ll be predicting 13-3 in no time!

JOE HORN IS JERRY RICE !! I GOT STATS, FOOL ... LMAO!

NUFF SAID!
NUFF SAID!
NUFF SAID!
NUFF SAID!
NUFF SAID!

Attention Horn bashers

Amazingly, this isn\'t much different than how you normally argue.

Attention Horn bashers

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Amazingly, this isn\'t much different than how you normally argue.

Back at cha, chump. You\'re the _________ (fill in the blank) who used stats to prove Joe Horn is a top 5 receiver.

Why can\'t I use the SAME stats to prove Joe Horn is just as good as Jerry Rice.?