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Saints Possible Options At Pick No. 11

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Malik McDowell has big character concerns and doesn't really try on the field . NFL team says Malik McDowell's interview was combine's worst Michigan State interior pass rusher Malik McDowell entered the NFL Combine as one ...

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Old 04-14-2017, 04:37 PM   #121
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Malik McDowell has big character concerns and doesn't really try on the field.

NFL team says Malik McDowell's interview was combine's worst

Michigan State interior pass rusher Malik McDowell entered the NFL Combine as one of event's most polarizing prospects and exits as a plyer who didn't leave a great impression with several teams, according to Yahoo Sports.
“Worst interview we did," one NFL team told Yahoo Sports' Eric Edholm.
“Awful interview. Awful," another reportedly said.

NFL Network draft analyst: 'No effort' from MSU's Malik McDowell

“Just no effort,” Jeremiah said on a conference call Wednesday. “To me, he’s a tough one. All the ability in the world – he’s got as much upside as any defensive linemen in the draft because you see him dominate at times. He just isn’t consistent.”

This is why you take him off your draft board.
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Old 04-14-2017, 04:42 PM   #122
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Mixon may be a bargain at 103. But I don't think he'll be there at the end of the 3rd.

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Mixon is gone on day 2. Top 20 talent with baggage.

Steak dinner on me (I'm true to my word) if he is still on the board by the 3rd round.
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Old 04-14-2017, 04:58 PM   #123
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This is why you take him off your draft board.
He's essentially what everyone feared about Nick Fairley. However, Fairley has grown up. McDowell would probably be the Fairley that Lions fans complained about.
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Old 04-14-2017, 06:18 PM   #124
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Mixon is gone on day 2. Top 20 talent with baggage.

Steak dinner on me (I'm true to my word) if he is still on the board by the 3rd round.
I violently agree with you, so no need to put up a steak dinner bet...

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Old 04-14-2017, 11:05 PM   #125
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I violently agree with you, so no need to put up a steak dinner bet...

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So if you're in violent agreement with someone, are you going to kick their ass for being so right, kick your own ass for them being so right, or...?
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Old 04-15-2017, 12:57 AM   #126
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They should look to upgrade Ingram. Last years was his first 16 game season and even then he was coveres by a good back up. Most years he spen too many games in the tub. I like the guy but he we lack a true home run hitter in the backfield.

The offense gas lioked at its best eith a Thomas/Sproles involed and McCaffrey and Mixin are that tyoe
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Old 04-15-2017, 06:00 PM   #127
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McCaffrey and Mixion

would be a dangerous two headed monster
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Old 04-15-2017, 11:46 PM   #128
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They should look to upgrade Ingram. Last years was his first 16 game season and even then he was coveres by a good back up. Most years he spen too many games in the tub. I like the guy but he we lack a true home run hitter in the backfield.
While we're at it, let's go ahead and upgrade the QB, WR, and LT position too. That way we can have the #1 scoring offense in the league instead of #2 and we can lose games 48-45 instead of 35-32.

The offense gas lioked at its best eith a Thomas/Sproles involed and McCaffrey and Mixin are that tyoe
I know that it's fantasy mock draft time. I'll be relieved when the torture finally ends. I also know like Payton, many fans love to see shiny new tinker toys. But honestly with a bottom 10 defense the last 3 years and the raft of IR season ending injuries we've seen on that side of the ball, can the Saints really afford to spend #11, #32, and #42 on any player that isn't a projected defensive starter?

To wearily repeat. In 2013 the Saints defense was 19 PPG in scoring. The team went to the playoffs and won a playoff game. Since then the defense has been 26 PPG or worse. 3 straight 7-9 seasons and no playoffs.

There are no once in a generation talents on the offensive side of the ball in this draft. So considering the situation of a current top 3 offense and bottom 10 defense, both the BPA and need areas filling are both on the defensive side of the ball.

As for Ingram being a home run hitter, just a quick reminder:


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Old 04-16-2017, 04:03 AM   #129
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This is why you take him off your draft board.
I wouldn't take him off the draft board but this is why he doesn't go in the 1st round. Every draft pick is a huge gamble but if I'm in that war room come draft day and a talent like McDowell is there in the 2nd I pull the trigger in a heartbeat, get him on a cheap rookie contract, coach him up, let the players help out with motovating him and watch a monster come alive. He's damn good there is no denying that, much more potential than players going higher than him.
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:29 AM   #130
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The running game has lots of room for improvement as it was only 16th in the NFL in RuYd/game (19th in attempts)...

Having a better running game would allow us to improve our Time of Possession, and that limits the exposure of the defense...

Logic continues that limiting the exposure of the defense translates to fewer allowed yardage and opposing scoring opportunities...

Haven't been the biggest Ingram fan since we drafted him in the first round using a first and a second round pick to acquire him...

And it only took him nearly five years to actually have an impact in the Saints offensive scheme...

But to hang it all on Ingram is erroneous at best as we were only 19th in rushing attempts last season...

Not to mention that we were running a 3-guard rotation to keep Jahri Evans fresh and Peat was having to play LT...

I do believe Ingram needs a complimentary RB, and McCaffrey looks to be the ideal choice in this draft...

But we also could use another young guard in addition to the Warford FA signing, a Grubbs salve signing for failing on Zeitler...

The team did a solid job of shoring up the roster Pre-Draft; and as deep as this draft is, we have options with our first five picks...

So if we took McCaffrey with the 11th pick, I wouldn't panic or blink unless we didn't have an add'l DE after pick 76...
It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...
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