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jeanpierre 07-18-2017 08:14 AM

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jeanpierre 07-18-2017 08:16 AM

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WillSaints81 07-18-2017 05:21 PM

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And he has us going 8-8 for these reasons.........

No one opposite Cam(unless Kikaha stays healthy and is the answer which he said was a LB)

Peat isn't a good oline player yet

The pass rush won't be good enough to help the secondary

Situational pass rushers are not the solution, which he called Okafor.

Therefore with all this said, If Kikaha does not excel consistently as a DE and someone does not fill Fairley's void, then the secondary better be ready to play lights out and going for the ball because that's the only way our defense will improve(unless Nolan's coaching makes the LBs play better)

And Peat.......he better be ready to step up because Ram can't do his dirty work for him as a rookie.

K Major 07-18-2017 10:47 PM

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And Peat.......he better be ready to step up because Ram can't do his dirty work for him as a rookie.

Wait a minute ... what? That sounds pretty narrow minded. Peat played LT 60% of last year when Armstead was injured and proved he could do the job. Yes, for now he (Peat) is our LG and a pretty solid back up to a injury prone LT. Ramczyk hasn't played a down yet at this level.

Up this way in DeathStar nation I hear their coaches preach "solidifying the O line" over and over. There have been several highly rated tackles taken in the past few seasons who ended up fitting best at guard. A good/solid LG is also a good LT ... priceless. Peat has good value.

Training camp awaits.

WillSaints81 07-19-2017 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 755345)
Wait a minute ... what? That sounds pretty narrow minded. Peat played LT 60% of last year when Armstead was injured and proved he could do the job. Yes, for now he (Peat) is our LG and a pretty solid back up to a injury prone LT. Ramczyk hasn't played a down yet at this level.

Up this way in DeathStar nation I hear their coaches preach "solidifying the O line" over and over. There have been several highly rated tackles taken in the past few seasons who ended up fitting best at guard. A good/solid LG is also a good LT ... priceless. Peat has good value.

Training camp awaits.


Do you take Walter's word or not? He's the one who said Peat wasn't good enough. If he's right, that's my point. And because he will be lining up on the same side as Ram, then any missed assignments by him and Ram has to do the dirty work Streiff did for Evans(at times)/Kelemete in 2015. Of course maybe he didn't know what he was talking about because Peat hasn't played at LG consistently since the first few weeks of last season.

AsylumGuido 07-19-2017 06:39 PM

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Do you take Walter's word or not? He's the one who said Peat wasn't good enough. If he's right, that's my point. And because he will be lining up on the same side as Ram, then any missed assignments by him and Ram has to do the dirty work Streiff did for Evans(at times)/Kelemete in 2015. Of course maybe he didn't know what he was talking about because Peat hasn't played at LG consistently since the first few weeks of last season.

Okay, this guy is relying on WalterFootball.com as his bible for evaluating the Saints. Walter's says that there is a competition at LG between Peat and Kelemente that is open. Willy boy is being so misinformed. Oh, and because he is "ignoring" me someone else needs to set him straight.

:rolleyes:

jeanpierre 08-07-2017 02:25 PM

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Utah_Saint 08-07-2017 10:21 PM

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Okay, this guy is relying on WalterFootball.com as his bible for evaluating the Saints. Walter's says that there is a competition at LG between Peat and Kelemente that is open. Willy boy is being so misinformed. Oh, and because he is "ignoring" me someone else needs to set him straight.

:rolleyes:

I do like WalterFootball. I think the writers there are very knowledgeable. That said, I think they're overly concerned with Peat. I think most of us were worried about Peat before the season last year but it looked to me that he not only held his own, he excelled at the guard position.

Football Outsiders ranked offensive lines in different ways. They not only measured how successful a team is running the ball but also uses different metrics to try differentiate between how much of that success was due to the RB and how much of it was due to the offensive line.

They ranked the Saints #1 in Adjusted Line Yards which gives an offensive line 100% credit for gains of 0-4 yards, 50% credit for gains between 5-10 yards and 0% credit for gains of 11 yards or more and 120% credit for losses. And then adjusts all that for every others team average against the same RB.

The Saints ranked 9th in Power Success which measures a team's success on 3rd or 4th down and 2 yards or less to go. Also goal line runs of 2 yards or less.

The Saints ranked #2 in "Stuffed" rank which measured the percentage of runs that were stopped in the backfield.

The Saints ranked #19 in "Second Level Runs" in which the RB gains between 5-10 yards. And #10 in Open Field Carries, in which the RB gains 11 or more yards.

Their pass blocking metrics are much simpler. They simply divide the number of sacks given up into the number of pass attempts to determine sack rate. The Saints ranked #5.

Given how high the Saints ranked last season with Peat in the lineup, he must've been pretty solid.

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jeanpierre 08-07-2017 11:12 PM

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I do like WalterFootball. I think the writers there are very knowledgeable.

Agree they are knowledgeable and have access, but their op-eds are very biased to certain teams and they seemed ill-informed when it comes to the Saints...

jeanpierre 08-29-2017 07:26 PM

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