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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre What I'm saying is it would be prudent to draft a guard(s) for contingency... Second, not sold on Warford ; this seems like a Grubbs redux, Saints short-dimed it on All-Pro Carl Nicks and the running ...

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Old 05-09-2017, 03:29 PM   #21
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What I'm saying is it would be prudent to draft a guard(s) for contingency...

Second, not sold on Warford; this seems like a Grubbs redux, Saints short-dimed it on All-Pro Carl Nicks and the running game was not the same once Grubbs was inserted...
From the film I've seen on Warford, he is pretty stout in his ZBS and he'll do fine here. Putting him between two of the better pass blockers in the league in Strief/Unger will mask his deficiencies a bit. Warford is younger, bigger, cheaper than the big Kahuna (Zietler), and who knows... might end up being better.
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Old 05-11-2017, 05:47 AM   #22
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Well, there's the old adage that if you fail to learn from your history, you're doomed to repeat it.

And there are strikingly similar parallels to the when the Saints let Nicks walk and signed Grubbs.

Warford may be fine with Strief and Unger (eventually) on either side of him, then why spend that money?

Why couldn't Loomis do his job and just spend a bit more as he's good at and get a difference maker in Zeitler?
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Old 05-11-2017, 06:23 AM   #23
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Well, hopefully the Saints will be drafting very late in Round 1 as a result of their successful 2017 season...

If they haven't fixed the pass rush their are two prospects I've already targeted for the 2018 draft...

DE Sam Hubbard, Ohio St.; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 266 lbs.

Why the Saints? Payton loves Ohio State. Hubbard is a true base end for a 4-3. He's makes impact plays.


DE Bradley Chubb, NC State; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 275 lbs.

Why the Saints? New DL coach Ryan Nielsen coached him at NC State. Again, he's a true 4-3 base end. Last year 10.5 sacks and of his 58 tackles from the end position, 22 were for loss!


DE Marcel Frazier, Missouri; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 265 lbs.

Why the Saints? IF LSU is DB University, then Missouri is DE University and these DEs have a high floor. Frazier played the strong side and was really putting it together by season's end. The 2017 season should see a nice progression from Frazier.


DE Porter Gustin, USC; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 266 lbs.

Why the Saints? Faces elite OTs in practice and in the Pac 10 playing for USC. When watching his tape, reminds me of Howie Long (when Long would play DE). Hasn't finished growing yet! Kid is an absolute monster and if he makes the leap, should see his stock soar.

Okay, so I'm focused on DE, let me throw this out there...


DB Minkah Fitzpatrick, Bama; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 205 lbs.

Why the Saints? If LSU is DB Univ and Mizzou is DE Univ, Bama is First Round Univ (well, mostly). This kid literally takes a way half the field and the only problem you'll have is whether you play him at CB or Safety.


LB Jack Cichy, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 235 lbs.

Why the Saints? Really, really starting to like this Wisconsin team where they're not afraid to not only play, but start Walk-Ons! Reminds me of a Pro Team in the NFC South. Kid can flat out cover from the LB position.

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Well, hopefully the Saints will be drafting very late in Round 1 as a result of their successful 2017 season...

If they haven't fixed the pass rush their are two prospects I've already targeted for the 2018 draft...

DE Sam Hubbard, Ohio St.; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 266 lbs.

Why the Saints? Payton loves Ohio State. Hubbard is a true base end for a 4-3. He's makes impact plays.


DE Bradley Chubb, NC State; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 275 lbs.

Why the Saints? New DL coach Ryan Nielsen coached him at NC State. Again, he's a true 4-3 base end. Last year 10.5 sacks and of his 58 tackles from the end position, 22 were for loss!


DE Marcel Frazier, Missouri; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 265 lbs.

Why the Saints? IF LSU is DB University, then Missouri is DE University and these DEs have a high floor. Frazier played the strong side and was really putting it together by season's end. The 2017 season should see a nice progression from Frazier.


DE Porter Gustin, USC; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 266 lbs.

Why the Saints? Faces elite OTs in practice and in the Pac 10 playing for USC. When watching his tape, reminds me of Howie Long (when Long would play DE). Hasn't finished growing yet! Kid is an absolute monster and if he makes the leap, should see his stock soar.

Okay, so I'm focused on DE, let me throw this out there...


DB Minkah Fitzpatrick, Bama; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 205 lbs.

Why the Saints? If LSU is DB Univ and Mizzou is DE Univ, Bama is First Round Univ (well, mostly). This kid literally takes a way half the field and the only problem you'll have is whether you play him at CB or Safety.


LB Jack Cichy, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 235 lbs.

Why the Saints? Really, really starting to like this Wisconsin team where they're not afraid to not only play, but start Walk-Ons! Reminds me of a Pro Team in the NFC South. Kid can flat out cover from the LB position.
If they failed to address the pass rush this season it will be because of the interior not getting the push it needed. I'm keeping a close eye on Fairley. I think we could have gotten a big run stuffing NT to go along with Davison and Rankins and been much better off. If this front line fails this season it will be because of Allens miscue at judging the front line. Might be a very interesting season with this years D.
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Hype Watch
1. Arden Key DE LSU* 6052 232 4.84 #49 Jr
2. Sam Hubbard DE Ohio State* 6042 265 #6 rJr
3. Clelin Ferrell DE Clemson* 6045 255 4.78 #99 rSo

Solid proven
4. Bradley Chubb DE N.C. State 6031 273 4.86 #9 Sr
5. Porter Gustin DE/OLB/TE USC 6042 160 4.73 #45 Jr
6. Harold Landry DE/OLB Boston College 6026 250 4.78 #7 Jr
7. Da'Shawn Hand DL Alabama 6035 280 4.87 #9 Sr

Upside watch
8. Dorance Armstrong DE Kansas 6036 245 4.70 #2 Jr
9. Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State 6032 260 4.78 # 59 rSr
10. Duke Ejiofor DE Wake Forest 6026 275 4.87 #53 rSr
Josh Sweat*, DE, Florida State 6046 236 4.73 #9 Jr
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DB Minkah Fitzpatrick, Bama; Height: 6' 1", Weight: 205 lbs.

QB Josh Allen, Wyoming; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 233 lbs.

DE Sam Hubbard, Ohio St.; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 266 lbs.

OL Connor Williams, Texas; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 320 lbs.

NT Vita Vea, Washington; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 344 lbs.

DE Bradley Chubb, NC State; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 275 lbs.

OT Mike McGlinchey, Notre Dame; Height: 6' 6", Weight: 312 lbs.

QB Mason Rudolph, Oklahoma St; Height: 6' 4", Weight: 230 lbs.

LB Jack Cichy, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 2", Weight: 235 lbs.

DE Porter Gustin, USC; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 266 lbs.

TE Troy Fumagalli, Wisconsin; Height: 6' 5", Weight: 249 lbs.

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2018 Saints Top Draft Needs:

(1) Quarterback

(2) Tight End

(3) Center

(4) Defensive End

(5) Wide Receiver

Obviously very fluid between now and the draft, but this is where I'd say we currently are...
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2018 Saints Top Draft Needs:

(1) Quarterback

(2) Tight End

(3) Center

(4) Defensive End

(5) Wide Receiver

(6) Linebacker (you can never have enough sideline to sideline dawgs).
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