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Papa Voodoo 05-09-2017 01:25 PM

Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out
 
This looks like total garbage click bait, but says Mangold to visit NOLA:

New Orleans Saints Open Discussions with Nick Mangold – The 5th Tackle

AsylumGuido 05-09-2017 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 749419)
Well, WDSU (New Orleans) was reporting October return last night...

Foot injuries are tricky; then, Unger would need conditioning as well...

They, like several others, were just regurgitating what Fullacrap threw against the wall.

WillSaints81 05-09-2017 02:10 PM

Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out
 
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Originally Posted by dafyaman (Post 749396)
I wouldn't call a HOF RB an unknown quantity. Once upon a time Ingram was an unknown quantity by that logic when we let Bush walk. I think Peterson is here to bridge the gap between this year and next year. Cooks being traded should all but tell you how Payton feels about players who complain about not getting the ball which Ingram has done multiple times during the game on the sidelines throwing fits. It's embarrassing to Payton and the coaching staff and it makes the team look bad.

Ingram was drafted before Bush was let go and Ingram did not replace Bush, Sproles did.

WillSaints81 05-09-2017 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 749406)
If they are as desperate as you say, then yes, they had "dibs" (aka cap space, draft picks) to get any of a number of backs. Or are you really insinuating that the Eagles were waiting around for an injury opportunity so they could make a trade?

C'mon Will's brother, reveal yourself


I don't make speculation like this. I was right on the AP rumors but I know nothing about this.

aquaboogie 05-09-2017 02:31 PM

Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out
 
Someone throw some Holy Water on Armsteads knees

dafyaman 05-10-2017 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 749405)
It doesn't matter if a player once put up three hundred yards running on top of water. A guy coming back from an injury is just a guy coming back from an injury -particularly one to the lower extremities- until he proves himself for several games. That ain't gonna happen if there's not someone good hiking the ball in the first place. It makes much more sense to sign one of the guys already out there waiting than to trade the only back we know for sure is decent. Plus, Ingram came to the Saints a child. He's grown up quite a bit and hasn't done the tantrum thing in a couple of years now. He keeps running like he did last year and Payton'll keep taking him home for dinner.

Ummm, if I recall he just threw a tantrum last year against the Cardinals because they gave Hightower the TD carriers because it was against his old team. He was on the sideline making a scene and cursing out the coaches. So, no, he hasn't grown up. It's for this same reason Graham and Cooks were traded. I guess I just imagined this.

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/mark-i...012459044.html

dafyaman 05-10-2017 01:01 AM

Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out
 
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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 749433)
Ingram was drafted before Bush was let go and Ingram did not replace Bush, Sproles did.

Ummm, didn't Bush get traded the same year Ingram got drafted or do you not remember the infamous Bush tweet after Ingram got drafted.

After the Saints traded their way into the opening round and picked Alabama running back Mark Ingram, Reggie Bush tweeted, “It’s been fun New Orleans.”

How do you not know this as a Saints fan? Obviously Reggie thought he was being replaced and that he was. He was traded that same year to the Dolphins. He could not be the every down back the Saints wanted him to be so they essentially drafted Ingram to be that guy. I think they signed Sproles because Brees wanted him on the team because he knew Sproles would fit perfectly as a pass catching back.

jnormand 05-10-2017 06:14 AM

Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out
 
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Originally Posted by dafyaman (Post 749481)
Ummm, didn't Bush get traded the same year Ingram got drafted or do you not remember the infamous Bush tweet after Ingram got drafted.

After the Saints traded their way into the opening round and picked Alabama running back Mark Ingram, Reggie Bush tweeted, “It’s been fun New Orleans.”

How do you not know this as a Saints fan? Obviously Reggie thought he was being replaced and that he was. He was traded that same year to the Dolphins. He could not be the every down back the Saints wanted him to be so they essentially drafted Ingram to be that guy. I think they signed Sproles because Brees wanted him on the team because he knew Sproles would fit perfectly as a pass catching back.

Actually, I forgot about it until you said that. Regardless, I don't believe Ingram is on the chopping block. While I agree with you that Payton doesn't put up with attitude issues, the Cards game is the only time I've heard of anything happening.

Second, Bush was traded because he hadn't played a full season since his rookie year and he wasn't as effective in the offense.

I'm not saying there's no way the Saints don't trade Ingram, I'm saying I don't believe they will and I don't believe they'd bring in Peterson as the guy to "bridge the gap". Sorry man. We needed someone to replace Hightower. Peterson is that guy. I'd be surprised if Ingram was traded. Maybe if we still had Hightower and we signed Peterson. But Ingram is coming off his best year as a Saint. He's run the ball well and been effective in the passing game. Trading him without a proper (and reliable) back up plan would just be irresponsible. And IMHO I don't view a 32 year old running running back that has high mileage and is coming off injuries as "reliable".

jeanpierre 05-10-2017 09:58 AM

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:rolleyes:


K Major 05-10-2017 02:50 PM

Re: And so it begins.... Max Unger out
 
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Originally Posted by dafyaman (Post 749399)

It makes sense to trade Ingram for Kelce and the 4th rd draft pick the Eagles got for Eric Rowe that could possibly become a 3rd rounder. I don't think it happens right away because I think they want to see how Peterson looks first. I think replacing our center is more important than Ingram. Without a good line, we won't be able to run anyway.

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