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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You suffer from a grossly inflated image of self-worth as a fan. You have zero impact. Nothing. Zip. Nada. No fan, or group of fans, have ever cost any coach a job, nor have they had ...

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Old 06-03-2017, 07:19 PM   #41
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Re: Six franchises heading downhill

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You suffer from a grossly inflated image of self-worth as a fan. You have zero impact. Nothing. Zip. Nada. No fan, or group of fans, have ever cost any coach a job, nor have they had any tangible impact on any meaningful decision concerning any NFL franchise.
You apparently do not understand the word indirect, you should look that up. That is why coordinators are let go prior to a HC being let go. They find a scape goat to offer up to the fans and provide a new excitement in the fan base. Then when that fails there goes the HC.

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I now understand your angst. You are living under the illusion that you can somehow guide the direction of the team that you love by personally working harder to come up with solutions to their problems. You have nothing to look forward to but further frustration because your solutions are never applied by those who truly make those decisions.
There is 0 angst. I don't believe that at all, what I believe is that when I see a **** product I call it a **** product. You live, and this is not hyperbole, under the delusion that these are the same Saints from 09-11, they aren't, and it hasn't been for quite some time. We are not a good team, we don't make the playoffs. I'll never forget you talking before a Monday night game where we got beat (last year) and you said wouldn't be surprised if we beat them by a large margin. That is the good old days bro, we used to destroy people on Monday night. Yes, we used to be the team that beat the brakes off of the Colts on MNF, we are not that anymore. You were way off as you generally are because you can't let go of what we were vs what we are. I understand hoping, getting excited. I do too. The difference is you talk in absolutes and talk about someone living under delusions you fancy yourself "on the inside" with your constant non-sense about how you know for an absolute fact SP will never be fired. Yeah okay. Keep losing and fans will make that happen.

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Funny how I never have envisioned **** sandwiches, yet you are seemingly obsessed with the analogy. Perspective means so much in attitude.
You're comfortable lying to yourself, I am not. You're not positive you just are scared you can't handle reality so you lie to yourself and create a world where the **** sandwich doesn't exist. This way you enjoy eating them, you're just lying to yourself.

I predicted oru record accurately last season during or after pre-season and we fell right into that sweet spot. This year I think we have a shot at the playoffs and I can't really be sure of that or more until I see what we look like in pre. I do like our potential at running the ball and offensively. D I am not sure of yet

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Old 06-03-2017, 07:21 PM   #42
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Danno, are you saying that in 5 years the Browns will be playing in the Super Bowl?!



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Danno, are you saying that in 5 years the Browns will be playing in the Super Bowl?!



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Old 06-03-2017, 09:13 PM   #44
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You apparently do not understand the word indirect, you should look that up. That is why coordinators are let go prior to a HC being let go. They find a scape goat to offer up to the fans and provide a new excitement in the fan base. Then when that fails there goes the HC.



There is 0 angst. I don't believe that at all, what I believe is that when I see a **** product I call it a **** product. You live, and this is not hyperbole, under the delusion that these are the same Saints from 09-11, they aren't, and it hasn't been for quite some time. We are not a good team, we don't make the playoffs. I'll never forget you talking before a Monday night game where we got beat (last year) and you said wouldn't be surprised if we beat them by a large margin. That is the good old days bro, we used to destroy people on Monday night. Yes, we used to be the team that beat the brakes off of the Colts on MNF, we are not that anymore. You were way off as you generally are because you can't let go of what we were vs what we are. I understand hoping, getting excited. I do too. The difference is you talk in absolutes and talk about someone living under delusions you fancy yourself "on the inside" with your constant non-sense about how you know for an absolute fact SP will never be fired. Yeah okay. Keep losing and fans will make that happen.



You're comfortable lying to yourself, I am not. You're not positive you just are scared you can't handle reality so you lie to yourself and create a world where the **** sandwich doesn't exist. This way you enjoy eating them, you're just lying to yourself.

I predicted oru record accurately last season during or after pre-season and we fell right into that sweet spot. This year I think we have a shot at the playoffs and I can't really be sure of that or more until I see what we look like in pre. I do like our potential at running the ball and offensively. D I am not sure of yet
I am happy for you that you predicted failure. I hope that was satisfying. Your whole diatribe there was just more of the same useless bull**** that can in no way affect what will or can happen. Keep being angry and bitter if that is what you choose. I am seeing nothing but complete success in out team's upcoming season.

It is you that is lying to yourself. Nothing you do can affect the success of the team. Nothing. You can continue to wallow in your cesspool of negativity if you choose. Enjoy it! Whoop-ti-doo!



For myself, I will continue looking toward the positive.

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Old 06-03-2017, 11:59 PM   #45
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I am happy for you that you predicted failure. I hope that was satisfying. Your whole diatribe there was just more of the same useless bull**** that can in no way affect what will or can happen. Keep being angry and bitter if that is what you choose. I am seeing nothing but complete success in out team's upcoming season.

It is you that is lying to yourself. Nothing you do can affect the success of the team. Nothing. You can continue to wallow in your cesspool of negativity if you choose. Enjoy it! Whoop-ti-doo!



For myself, I will continue looking toward the positive.
Cool, then wager they're going to win the super bowl and will it with your magical positive unicorn powers. How much are you willing to bet? Uh oh, did the positive rainbow train just make a stop and you got off in reality...?
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Cool, then wager they're going to win the super bowl and will it with your magical positive unicorn powers. How much are you willing to bet? Uh oh, did the positive rainbow train just make a stop and you got off in reality...?
I only bet on absolutes. There are too many factors involved in that. I did make the bet with a fellow member here last season when he said the Saints wouldn't win more than six games. Now that was what I saw as an absolute. Do I truly believe that the Saints can win the SB this season? Yes. Do I know for sure? Absolutely not. And I also know that there is absolutely nothing you or I could do that would make their chances any better, or worse, this season or in any future season. Therefore, I choose to remain positive, which is something that I do have control over.


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Old 06-04-2017, 12:58 PM   #47
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I only bet on absolutes. There are too many factors involved in that. I did make the bet with a fellow member here last season when he said the Saints wouldn't win more than six games. Now that was what I saw as an absolute. Do I truly believe that the Saints can win the SB this season? Yes. Do I know for sure? Absolutely not. And I also know that there is absolutely nothing you or I could do that would make their chances any better, or worse, this season or in any future season. Therefore, I choose to remain positive, which is something that I do have control over.

Guess you're just not that positive after all. Oh well...negativity remains
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Old 06-04-2017, 01:47 PM   #48
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Guess you're just not that positive after all. Oh well...negativity remains
There is a vast difference between being positive in perception/attitude and being positive about a future event.

adjective - This is what you are thinking the term means.

with no possibility of doubt; clear and definite.
"he made a positive identification of a glossy ibis"

noun - This is how I am applying it. The opposite of negative.

a good, affirmative, or constructive quality or attribute.
"take your weaknesses and translate them into positives"
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