John Clayton out at ESPN

Beastmode · 05-31-2017, 11:23 AM

Market changed fairly swift. Streaming services, people care less about sports, focused on movies /shows. And nobody thought antenna TV would make a comeback but it did. 5% uptick since 2014.

Then they are improving the antenna signal to 4K in a couple of years and it appears all free stations will be available online and capable of watching anywhere on any device. Big hit to NFL / ESPN and everyone else if that is the case.

triman · 05-31-2017, 11:49 AM

The Crypt Keeper is gone

Beastmode · 05-31-2017, 11:53 AM

I have found some really good sports channels, way better than ESPN and no charge. And they only talk about sports, no other conversations other than suspensions and stuff like that. And almost no former players so I don't have to listen to their take on things since there have been about 100 rule changes since they played. Not the same game.

K Major · 05-31-2017, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I have found some really good sports channels, way better than ESPN and no charge.

Kodi - sports devil Add on?

Euphoria · 05-31-2017, 01:15 PM

Also take into account all the staff they employed getting fat checks for 15 minutes of air time. Make a phone call to a team and then jump on camera and talk what the conversations was about and go home and collect a couple mil.

They were clearly over spending and not getting the bang for their buck.

They certainly could have cut back. Plus now days they did use the MTV model thought went from just annoucing and showing sports to programming. All of the BS commentary and game shows WTF is all that about.

Rugby Saint II · 05-31-2017, 01:26 PM

They might be successful if they didn't shove their liberal views down my throat. I'd rather watch stupid jocks on the NFL channel.

jeanpierre · 05-31-2017, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I think there's truth to that statement. A perhaps more tangible reason is the sheer amount of money ESPN shelled out for programming rights. This was poor strategy considering how many people (me included) have "cut the cable" or eliminated subscriptions in favor of free news.

When ESPN was new, it was a revelation. Today sports highlights are everywhere and reporting is ubiquitous. ESPNs gamble to dominate viewership when paid viewership is declining was a bad one.

The lean left may be due to the fact that their advertisers are the only ones left paying them. So we have the tail wagging the dog.

You know '76, I find we get faster, more relevant information right here on Black & Gold...The synergy effort of fans...

And if it seems like #fakesaintsnews, there are more than enough skeptics to call bullshinski so there's real interaction...

Yeah, the scope is narrowed to SaintsNationNews, but still, it's a helluva lot better and we have enough gophers who will go out and dig up what's up with the Saints...

Regardless of your politics, most would agree that news or sports news reporting today comes with agendas...

CharityMike · 05-31-2017, 01:55 PM

And to add, I have noticed that anything that may be worth reading, you have to pay for a subscription. That turned me off big time. Cause all we are left with on the website is garbage reporting.

jeanpierre · 05-31-2017, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

And to add, I have noticed that anything that may be worth reading, you have to pay for a subscription. That turned me off big time. Cause all we are left with on the website is garbage reporting.

Not to sound like a Southern Baptist Deacon, but I'll segue...

This site does have costs too, but you can donate what you can when you can, though Halo does get a regular bill and expenses...

I'd say consider what you can afford vs what you get in entertainment value here vs other entertainment expenses (well, maybe not those that Forever has used his parents' credit card to enroll)...

Anyways, that's my plug for this great site...

neugey · 05-31-2017, 02:43 PM

All they'd have to do to figure out their problems is fire up 30 minutes of Sportscenter from the 90's and compare it to today's version. It's kind of sad, really.

05-31-2017, 11:23 AM	#11
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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN I have found some really good sports channels, way better than ESPN and no charge. And they only talk about sports, no other conversations other than suspensions and stuff like that. And almost no former players so I don't have to listen to their take on things since there have been about 100 rule changes since they played. Not the same game.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN Originally Posted by Beastmode I have found some really good sports channels, way better than ESPN and no charge. Kodi - sports devil Add on?

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN Also take into account all the staff they employed getting fat checks for 15 minutes of air time. Make a phone call to a team and then jump on camera and talk what the conversations was about and go home and collect a couple mil. They were clearly over spending and not getting the bang for their buck. They certainly could have cut back. Plus now days they did use the MTV model thought went from just annoucing and showing sports to programming. All of the BS commentary and game shows WTF is all that about.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,718	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN They might be successful if they didn't shove their liberal views down my throat. I'd rather watch stupid jocks on the NFL channel.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I think there's truth to that statement. A perhaps more tangible reason is the sheer amount of money ESPN shelled out for programming rights. This was poor strategy considering how many people (me included) have "cut the cable" or eliminated subscriptions in favor of free news. When ESPN was new, it was a revelation. Today sports highlights are everywhere and reporting is ubiquitous. ESPNs gamble to dominate viewership when paid viewership is declining was a bad one. The lean left may be due to the fact that their advertisers are the only ones left paying them. So we have the tail wagging the dog. You know '76, I find we get faster, more relevant information right here on Black & Gold...The synergy effort of fans... And if it seems like #fakesaintsnews, there are more than enough skeptics to call bullshinski so there's real interaction... Yeah, the scope is narrowed to SaintsNationNews, but still, it's a helluva lot better and we have enough gophers who will go out and dig up what's up with the Saints... Regardless of your politics, most would agree that news or sports news reporting today comes with agendas... neugey, saintsfan1976 and SmashMouth like this.
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CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN And to add, I have noticed that anything that may be worth reading, you have to pay for a subscription. That turned me off big time. Cause all we are left with on the website is garbage reporting. saintfan, spkb25, neugey and 2 others like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN Originally Posted by CharityMike And to add, I have noticed that anything that may be worth reading, you have to pay for a subscription. That turned me off big time. Cause all we are left with on the website is garbage reporting. Not to sound like a Southern Baptist Deacon, but I'll segue... This site does have costs too, but you can donate what you can when you can, though Halo does get a regular bill and expenses... I'd say consider what you can afford vs what you get in entertainment value here vs other entertainment expenses (well, maybe not those that Forever has used his parents' credit card to enroll)... Anyways, that's my plug for this great site... AsylumGuido, SmashMouth and CharityMike like this.

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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,590 Blog Entries: 13	Re: John Clayton out at ESPN All they'd have to do to figure out their problems is fire up 30 minutes of Sportscenter from the 90's and compare it to today's version. It's kind of sad, really. ChrisXVI likes this.

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