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saintsfan1313 03-29-2005 11:08 AM

I got a few sleepers here......
 
Adrian McPherson, QB: This kat didnt play too long at FSU, but has been playing in the Arena Football League. Good athlete, pretty fast QB. TD to interception ratio was insane, 61 TD's to 5 int's. A straight athlete that can come in and scare Brooks. Brooks wasnt smart when he took Blake's job a couple years back, just a good athlete. Maybe this would push Brooks to the next level and make him step up

Travis Daniels, CB: This guy played across from Webster @ LSU so he never gets any love. We had the debate earlier on #1 and #2 corners and the difference. I've seen him play and he is a strong sleeper. Needs to add some bulk, but he played safety and CB so he knows the secondary well. Smart player, rarely out of position. He would be a goooood late round player.

Odell Thurman, LB, just cause the guys from Georgia we will draft him...........

LKelley67 03-29-2005 11:14 AM

I got a few sleepers here......
 
mcpherson may be a good project like matt jones. 3rd round i guess

i too think daniels will be an excellent 4-5th rd pick for someone

i dont think there is any sleeping about thurman. a solid 2nd rounder. could be gone already by saints #40.

baronm 03-29-2005 11:16 AM

I got a few sleepers here......
 
I think it\'ll be thurman or travis johnson early(i\'m not thrilled with either..buti\'m also not in the saints FO)...but I really don\'t think that McPherson is a guy that we should pick up at all....Major character questions..in a town that brings out the worst in folks...not a good mix. I think also whereas brooks isn\'t dumb-just not football saavy...this kid is dumb-as in the little bus....

as for daniels..he is an interesting pick. Like thurman, pollock and davis-I\'m kinda scared/wonder about the boys from defenses that have other star players on them..was daniels better because of webster or vice versa..can he stand alone?



[Edited on 29/3/2005 by baronm]

saintsfan1313 03-29-2005 11:18 AM

I got a few sleepers here......
 
I was just being a smart-A$$ about Thurman, since he\'s from georgia, hes automatically getting drafted by us.......

baronm 03-29-2005 11:38 AM

I got a few sleepers here......
 
It could happen...then again we could take greene, pollock or davis...all georgia boys...and at 16 pollack could be the best player available.

FireVenturi 03-29-2005 01:23 PM

I got a few sleepers here......
 
I like Adrian as a potential backup for AB, we would have to take him in the third though,also like Thurman. I am a big LSU fan, but not a Daniels fan....in the 5th rd though he would be worth a shot

baronm 03-29-2005 01:55 PM

I got a few sleepers here......
 
here\'s another:

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Sleeper CB prospect and one time top prep recruit Michael Hawkins, formally of Okalhoma and now playing for the Dallas Desperados in the Arena Football League, measured in at 6-1 1/4 and 176 pounds and ran for an average of 4.39

Strengths: Has great size and the frame to get bigger...Is very fast and has excellent timed speed...Is an excellent natural athlete...Has a nose for the ball and knack for making the big play...Still has a lot of potential and upside.
Weaknesses: Very raw and has not played much football, let along against top competition...Needs to add weight...Must get stronger...Needs a lot of technique work...Any team that drafts him would be taking a major gamble.
Notes: Was one of the top recruits in the country coming out of high school...Began his career with Oklahoma but only played one season...Made the Arena Football League via an open tryout...Real interesting developmental prospect
nfldraftcountdown.com


heres\' another:
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Stefan LeFors:

Stefan LeFors\' parents are deaf. LeFors knows sign language. The huddle concept was invented by a deaf college so the other team couldn\'t see what they were planning. There, now you learned something, and reading this article wasn\'t a complete waste of your effort. Louisville head coach Bobby Petrino was blessed with not only having one competent quarterback, but two. LeFors and Brohm split time this season, and instead of stumbling along, Louisville left a trail of blood all over the country, with their only loss coming to the Hurricanes in a nail-biter. LeFors is a 5th year player at Louisville, who redshirted in year 1. He does not possess an enormous arm, but what he does possess is the ability to remain calm and play the game. He is a leader and has what they call \"huddle presence\". The real test is whether or not he can improve his downfield throwing ability. He does not have significant height, being only an even 6 ft. tall. But as the old saying goes, it is not the size of the dog in the fight. In the last two seasons, LeFors has thrown for 5,700 yards and 37 touchdowns, and that includes a season where he split time. Not a first rounder by any means, but a late gem nonetheless that may end up leaving people pretty surprised down the road.
Ryan Moats:

I had Moats listed as one of the top backs in 2005, and it was somewhat of a surprise to me that this junior had decided to leave college early and head for the land of splendor. It may not be all that surprising, though, when you look at his numbers. Moats has been an enormous part of the Lousiana Tech offense for a number of years now, and in 2004 alone rushed for 1,774 yards and 18 touchdowns, all en route to becoming the 2004 WAC player of the year. In virtually half of the Bulldogs\' games in \'04, Moats went over the 200 yard mark. Clearly the guy has some talent. The thing that really irritates me about this, is that I can no longer talk about people \"getting stuck in the Moat\" and \"dying in the Moats\" and all that. This guy basically ruined my entire 2005 comedic life.

Roddy White:

Yet another mid-major conference receiver that is quietly rolling along. White, unlike the others I have listed, is making some pre-draft waves. He has already climbed up to 4th or 5th in the wide receiver category, and had a nice week at the Senior Bowl. White has all the tools for success at the next level. He\'s 6\'2\", weighs 205 lbs., runs a 4.45, and led the nation in receiving this past year. He racked up 1,452 enroute to 14 touchdowns. But hey, it doesn\'t hurt when your quarterback is a physical monster of a man like Darrell Hackney. White is yet another receiver who is extremely talented yet over-looked by supposed experts that say this draft class is thin at receivers, despite 2,900 yards of receiving in his career and 24 touchdowns. He\'ll probably go before the end of the third round, but my guess is second if not late first.
Derek Wake:

Derek Wake came into Penn State as the pride of the freshman draft class. He excelled tremendously as a special teams monster, and the next season was given the starting linebacker job. But the first game of his new career, his knee decided it no longer wanted to be a team player. Wake was lost for the season, and under-went reconstructive knee surgery. He came back but was never really able to reach his earlier level of potential. Graduating this season and entering the draft, some draft sites are saying that Wake\'s stock has climbed pretty well. he still possesses an enormous athleticism, with a giant wingspan and vertical leap. During his tenure in State College, Wake tallied six blocked kicks: three field goals, a punt, and two extra points. Not bad for a guy with a \"bum\" knee.
Michael Boley:

Another player defying the crap spewed by the \"experts\" is Southern Mississippi\'s Michael Boley. A lot of people said the 2005 draft class was thin at linebacker. That couldn\'t be any more wrong. Boley is another guy on this list who, in addition to the obvious pick-ups of Johnson and Cody, is a linebacker that deserves to be drafted. Boley has been dominating for years. He\'s 6\'3\", 220, and ran a recorded 4.5 40 yard dash. His 2004 stats alone are quite solid: 117 solo tackles, 7 sacks, 5 forced fumbles, and a pick. He has recorded 17 double-digit tackling games in his career at Southern Miss. He was a 2003 All-American, and made SI\'s second team All-Americans for 2004. Boley has an enormous overall athletic talent as a playmaker and pass-rusher. Because of his size, he may be moved in the NFL to strong safety. Either way, look for Boley to get playing time and kill at least one unsuspecting offensive player in 2005, either on defense or special teams.


This man is highly responsible for me
losing a bet of 5 dozen wings.

Kirk Morrison:

Kirk Morrison ruined my life one snowy, Colorado day. I was pulling for Air Force to beat San Diego State, but I should have known better to begin with. Never bet on Air Force. Marching down the field to win, the Falcon QB threw a pass that was picked off by none other than one of the best unknown linebackers in the country: San Diego State\'s Kirk Morrison. The 6\'2\", 240 lb. senior is technically as sound as linebacker as you will find, and is a commander on the grass. Morrison was a 2003 All-American according to the College Football News, was the 2003 Mountain West defensive player of the year, and is the first Aztec since Marshall Faulk to be named as an All-American in consecutive seasons, and recorded nearly 400 tackles in his career in San Diego. He had 115 this year, and 115 last year. One observer on Morrison described the almost \"eerie\" signature \'smack\' that Morrison puts on people. Not bad stats and accolades for a guy who is at the top of a corps of linebackers who are not supposed to be any good!

Brodney Pool:

The player out of these three secondary players that has the most upside at the pro level is Oklahoma\'s Brodney Pool. Pool is a surprisingly good player despite the fact that Oklahoma\'s secondary in 2004 had more holes in it than James Caan\'s body in \'The Godfather\'. Hey, I\'m no expert... well, I am, of course... but I\'d say that it says a lot about a secondary when you need to ask a redshirt freshman to give up his redshirt status to play against one of the most inconsistent and unreliable quarterbacks in the country, Reggie McNeal of Texas A&M. As much as I like Brodney Pool (and I hate Oklahoma), he did not have a killer year in 2004. In 2003, Pool had 7 interceptions, 2 sacks, and 68 tackles from the free safety position. There is a possibility that with the new defensive minds this year in Norman, Pool did not have the ability to showcase he may have had previously. In 2003, Pool came up big in conference play, and all but 2 of his picks were against Big XII competition. And although they lost the national championship, Pool came up big in that LSU game when he took a pick 50 yards and set up a touchdown. This past season, his number of tackles rose to 87, but his INT\'s dropped to 2. He also recorded zero sacks, a slightly above average D\'Juan Woods tore him up, and let\'s not even bring up the USC game. Pool may be leaving Norman when the getting is good, his stock is still credible as far as the stock of big money hustlas is concerned. Maybe him and Craphonso Thorpe are good buddies. The knock on Pool is a possible complacency on the football field, where he does not give 100%. All that being said, the safety position is also under fire from the experts for not being any good. Pool has shown he has a great amount of potential at the next level, and has an abundance of raw athletic talent. He\'s 6\'3\" 210 lbs. and ran a recorded 4.5 40-yard dash. A top draft website has Pool listed as 6th on the chart for strong safeties, and that is preposterous. I liked Pool a lot when he was at OU, even though I hate the undeserved hype OU receives. I\'m sad to see him leave early, but he\'ll be a nice fit for somebody in the NFL.



http://www.sportznutz.com/nfl/draft/sleepers/skill_position_sleeper_picks.htm

sorry for the comments from the site-but they were histerical...these guys are all players that might nto be bad.

[Edited on 29/3/2005 by baronm]

here is another:

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About John Paul: John Paul is a physical defensive tackle who can dominate a game with his high motor and explosion off the ball. John Paul uses his toughness and sound technique in the trenches to beat and disengage from defenders. Often double teamed, John Paul’s thick frame and excellent upper and lower muscle mass allowed him to stay alive in those situations. Known as an aggressive tackler, John Paul is extremely agile and has great reaction time for someone his size. John Paul’s constant upbeat attitude on and off the field has always had a motivational effect on his teammates.
and look he has his own website:
www.john-pauljones.com

wasn\'t the original JPJ the guy who said-i have not yet begun to fight...I\'ve got a new favorite player.

[Edited on 29/3/2005 by baronm]


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