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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Pat Kirwan talked about this very scenario yesterday on Movin' the Chains on NFL Radio. He said it is very common that players get frustrated with their agents trying to get so much out of a ...

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Pat Kirwan talked about this very scenario yesterday on Movin' the Chains on NFL Radio. He said it is very common that players get frustrated with their agents trying to get so much out of a deal that they begin to lose track of what the player actually wants. At that point other agents start approaching the player and the player fires his agent to get the ball moving again.
Don't believe NFLPA rules allow other agents to contact players while in an existing agreement with an agent...

But I do believe a player may know what's best overall for him and it may be 8.5% less in a total deal, but factoring taxes, local name status and recognition, proximity to family, family being happy in an area, other opportunities, you're definitely right that all that is a factor...

Lance Moore just disappeared once he left NO; sometimes "the right fit" & "overall happiness" is everything...
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Don't believe NFLPA rules allow other agents to contact players while in an existing agreement with an agent...

But I do believe a player may know what's best overall for him and it may be 8.5% less in a total deal, but factoring taxes, local name status and recognition, proximity to family, family being happy in an area, other opportunities, you're definitely right that all that is a factor...

Lance Moore just disappeared once he left NO; sometimes "the right fit" & "overall happiness" is everything...
Kirwan said it happens all the time. He said it is very common. It might not be "allowed under the rules" but players change agents much more often than we would expect, according to Kirwan. I would think that as long as the player says it was he who originated the contact there isn't much the NFLPA can do about it.
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido View Post
Kirwan said it happens all the time. He said it is very common. It might not be "allowed under the rules" but players change agents much more often than we would expect, according to Kirwan. I would think that as long as the player says it was he who originated the contact there isn't much the NFLPA can do about it.
Oh, no question they change agents; it's just that agents are not supposed to initiate solicitation, nor courting of contracted players...

But Snead is having his Tidwell moment and have Rosenhaus should give him some comfort, for what that's worth...
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Oh, no question they change agents; it's just that agents are not supposed to initiate solicitation, nor courting of contracted players...

But Snead is having his Tidwell moment and have Rosenhaus should give him some comfort, for what that's worth...
I agree they're not "supposed to", but Kirwan said they actually do (my addition here) and as long as the players claim to have made first contact nothing can be done about it. Kirwan never said that part, but Occam's Razor. That's what I love about listening to Pat Kirwan. He holds nothing back and tells all about what happens behind the scenes in front office dealings. Very interesting man.
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Oh, and Rosenhaus has a reputation for getting deals done.
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Oh, and Rosenhaus has a reputation for getting his clients paid.
FIFY.
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FIFY.
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I usually don't care for Fansided, but this wasn't too bad; especially the section on Marques Colston...

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A rare peek inside the Saints weight room, especially surprising Snead plugging a product there...

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