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SaintSnide 03-30-2005 07:45 AM

HOWARD FOR BUCHANNON is it true?
 
I saw on the nfl.com's forum that the trade is done. It was Howard for Buchannon and a 2nd. Can anyone confirm?
Sounds like a nice deal.

OK. ive been looking I cant find anything on it. Cant even find the thread that i saw this on. Sorry sound like it may just be another Howard rumor.

[Edited on 30/3/2005 by SaintSnide]

LKelley67 03-30-2005 08:12 AM

HOWARD FOR BUCHANNON is it true?
 
don\'t see it across the wires anywhere. link to the forum?

nice with oakland is that their 2nd is #38, pretty good spot. that could fetch a jammal brown (#16) and 2 LBs or another top DT.

Danno 03-30-2005 08:27 AM

HOWARD FOR BUCHANNON is it true?
 
Los Angeles radio broadcasted it last night.

http://www.saintsreport.com/forums/s...hreadid=156745

Radio link

<http://www.xtrasports690.com/streaming.html>

baronm 03-30-2005 08:41 AM

HOWARD FOR BUCHANNON is it true?
 
if true this is awesome-we get a CB, Possibly an OT, DT and a pretty good linebacker (brown, Ruud, Castillo...would be awesome). ..or if we wanted to stay with the DT\'s we have (brown, burnett, Ruud..awesome as well)

SCSaint 03-30-2005 09:20 AM

HOWARD FOR BUCHANNON is it true?
 
This would be the best option, unless the Vikings will offer Dontarious Thomas and there third, maybe?

baronm 03-30-2005 09:31 AM

HOWARD FOR BUCHANNON is it true?
 
still trying to find out what\'s up....

stockman311 03-30-2005 10:11 AM

HOWARD FOR BUCHANNON is it true?
 
This is a great trade for both parties if it is true. The second round pick is the kicker. Their are some excellent football players available at a lower price tag in the second round.
We need OT, LB, DT. We can fill all three needs with 3 picks in the top 40.
I also wouldn\'t mind grabbing Arrington as a backup to Duece in the second round if he is still there.

[Edited on 30/3/2005 by stockman311]

deanomite 03-30-2005 10:30 AM

HOWARD FOR BUCHANNON is it true?
 
I don\'t think that we need a guy like PB. We would just be bringing back headaches into the locker room and i thought that we are trying to get rid of these kind of players.

[Edited on 30/3/2005 by deanomite]

Danno 03-30-2005 11:12 AM

HOWARD FOR BUCHANNON is it true?
 
Quote:

I don\'t think that we need a guy like PB. We would just be bringing back headaches into the locker room and i thought that we are trying to get rid of these kind of players.

[Edited on 30/3/2005 by deanomite]
Welcome aboard newbie.

I haven\'t heard of PB being a bad locker room guy. Whats he done?

baronm 03-30-2005 11:38 AM

HOWARD FOR BUCHANNON is it true?
 
Quote:

PRO: Versatile defender who also handles punt return duties...Has played in 38 league games with 28 starts since entering NFL in 2002...Owns team record for average yards per punt return in a career (13.1)...Tied franchise records in punt returns for touchdowns in a career with three (Claude Gibson, George Atkinson and Tim Brown) and most touchdowns by punt return in a season with two (Gibson, Atkinson and Desmond Howard)...
2004: Started 14 league games at cornerback, recording 59 tackles, one fumble recovery, and led the team with three interceptions, missed the final two games of 2004 with an injury.

2003: Played in all 16 league games with 11 starts at CB...Intercepted team-high six passes (T-2nd AFC and T-5th NFL) for 176 yards with a long of 83 for two touchdowns and 10 passes defensed, all team-highs...Tallied 44 tackles and two forced fumbles...Returned 36 punts for 491 yards with a long of 80 yards and two touchdowns...Averaged 13.6 yards per return (2nd AFC and 6th NFL)...

COLLEGE: Lettered three years at Miami before entering the NFL Draft following junior season...Scored on an interception, fumble and punt return during his college career...Recorded 88 tackles in 32 games for the Hurricanes...Returned 32 punts for 477 yards (14.9 avg.) and two touchdowns, adding 235 yards and two scores on seven interceptions...

Earned All-American honors, named Special Teams Player of the Year and was one of three finalists for the Mosi Tatupu Award, awarded annually to college football\'s finest special teams player, in 2001...

PERSONAL: Four-sport star at Lehigh High School in Ft. Myers, Florida...All-State selection as a senior after registering 102 tackles, including 42 solo stops, two sacks and seven interceptions...Also returned three punts for touchdowns and played running back, registering 928 rushing yards on 115 carries with 13 touchdowns...Added 15 receptions for 289 yards and three scores...Four-year letterman in baseball and one of the state\'s top prospects...All-State selection in baseball as a senior after batting .463 with seven triples, six doubles and five home runs...Four-year letterman on basketball team where he averaged 20.1 points, five assists and four steals per game...Ran track for three seasons, recording personal bests of 10.5 in the 100-meters and 21.8 in the 200-meters...Member of the school\'s honor roll and the Scholar Club...Is a cousin of Tennessee Titans defensive end Jevon Kearse.

2004: Started 14 league games at cornerback, recording 59 tackles, one fumble recovery, and led the team with three interceptions, missed the final two games of 2004 with an injury.
2003: Played in all 16 league games with 11 starts at CB...Intercepted team-high six passes (T-2nd AFC and T-5th NFL) for 176 yards with a long of 83 for two touchdowns and 10 passes defensed, all team-highs...Tallied 44 tackles and two forced fumbles...Returned 36 punts for 491 yards with a long of 80 yards and two touchdowns...Averaged 13.6 yards per return (2nd AFC and 6th NFL)...

2002: In his first season with the Silver and Black, played in six contests starting in three at cornerback...Made 21 tackles, five passes defensed and intercepted two passes for a total of 81 yards and one touchdown...Also returned 15 punts for 178 yards with a long of 83 yards, a touchdown...Averaged 11.9 yards per punt return...




ScottyRo 03-30-2005 11:53 AM

HOWARD FOR BUCHANNON is it true?
 
I don\'t know about this deal. Not that it doesn\'t look good for the Saints, but it seems like Oakland would be giving up way too much.

From what I\'ve been reading I\'ve just been getting a feeling that Howard isn\'t going to draw a huge trade and that some teams were only willing to give up a 2nd rounder for him and we were holding out for a 1st. To get a 2nd and a decent starter at CB seems to good to be true.

baronm 03-30-2005 11:55 AM

HOWARD FOR BUCHANNON is it true?
 
I\'ve been searching and I cna\'t find anything on this-I think it is a hoax.


baronm 03-30-2005 12:32 PM

HOWARD FOR BUCHANNON is it true?
 
Quote:

first rounder fed upAssociated Press


ALAMEDA, Calif. -- Cornerback Phillip Buchanon is so frustrated with the way the Oakland Raiders are operating that he wants to be traded.

Buchanon, the Raiders\' first-round draft pick in 2002 out of Miami, said he spoke with team personnel chief Michael Lombardi to express his desire to go elsewhere.

\"The way I am feeling about the Raiders, I am not happy,\" Buchanon said Wednesday. \"I am just not happy with the organization right now. I am looking forward to a possible trade with somebody else.\"

Both Lombardi and Buchanon\'s agent, Terry Williams, declined to comment after learning of Buchanon\'s statement, made four days before Oakland (5-10) ends another disappointing season at home Sunday against Jacksonville.

If Buchanon leaves, there\'s a possibility the Raiders will lose both starting cornerbacks this offseason.

Four-time Pro Bowler Charles Woodson, making nearly $9 million this season as Oakland\'s franchise player, could earn as much as $10.5 million next season if the Raiders kept the franchise tag on him -- an expensive move that seems unlikely, especially after his arrest last week for public intoxication.

Woodson has said for months he wants to be the highest paid cornerback in the league, a distinction currently held by Champ Bailey of Denver. Bailey signed a seven-year, $63 million contract with the Broncos last offseason that includes an $18 million signing bonus and $5 million in other bonuses.

Buchanon has 59 tackles -- 50 solo -- three interceptions, nine pass deflections and a fumble recovery this season, but has been consistently poor returning punts. Coach Norv Turner has stuck by him despite the struggles.

Buchanon refers to himself as \"Showtime,\" and arrived at training camp in 2003 as a second-year pro in a limousine and wearing a fancy pajama suit.

\"I mean there is a lot of stuff that goes on here and it ain\'t right,\" he said. \"I am not feeling too good here. I am not happy with the organization. Things ain\'t good right now. I know that.\"

Quote:

Associated Press

NAPA, Calif. -- For two seasons Oakland Raiders cornerback Phillip Buchanon has teetered between brilliant and dreadful, often at the same time.

For every big play the former first-round pick made, there were a multitude of inexplicable mistakes balancing the scales.

Now as one of the senior members of Oakland\'s secondary despite entering just his third NFL season, Buchanon is trying to find a more consistent pattern to his play.

So far, it appears to be working.

Buchanon has received praise almost daily from teammates and coaches alike in Oakland\'s training camp, where the 5-foot-10, 185-pound cornerback has impressed onlookers with his work in practice.

That\'s an important sign for the Raiders, who will have at least one new starter in the secondary following the July 27 release of free safety Rod Woodson. Oakland\'s other starting cornerback, Charles Woodson, remains a training camp holdout while seeking a long-term contract from the club.

\"I think (Buchanon) is having a great camp,\" said Raiders head coach Norv Turner. \"There\'s really been one play where he\'s taken a shot in this camp and missed, a short throw to Jerry Rice. Other than that he\'s been in great position. He\'s got the ability to make big plays. He\'s just got to pick and choose his spots and the big plays will come to him.\"

That wasn\'t the case in previous seasons. In 2003, for example, Buchanon led Oakland with six interceptions including two returns for touchdowns. But he was also routinely beaten by opposing receivers who had a field day at the young defensive back\'s expense.

Buchanon scored the game-winning touchdown on an 83-yard interception return against Cincinnati on Sept. 14, but only after getting beaten in pass coverage 10 times for 150 yards and two touchdowns.

Then there was the Nov. 23 game in Kansas City when, with the Raiders trailing by three midway through the fourth quarter, Buchanon fielded a punt near midfield and returned it to the Chiefs\' 26. After being pushed out of bounds near the Kansas City sideline, Buchanon ripped his helmet off and raced down the field, taunting the Chiefs\' players and fans.

Referees hit Buchanon with a 15-yard penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct and the team was forced to settle for a field goal that tied the game at 24. Buchanon also gave up a 16-yard completion on a fourth-down play later in the game that set up Kansas City\'s game-winning field goal.

Buchanon\'s antics in Kansas City led then-teammate Tim Brown to declare, \"That\'s Phillip. Phillip giveth and Phillip taketh away,\" a stigma that Buchanon found hard to shake.

His season hit rock bottom late in the year during a nationally televised game against Green Bay when Buchanon was beaten for 163 yards and two touchdowns in the first half and wound up being benched briefly in the third quarter.

Buchanon makes no apologies for what happened in 2003 but understands the need to become more selective in his thinking.

\"That\'s just the way I play. You win some, you lose some,\" said Buchanon. \"I\'m a player, a young guy, I\'m out of Miami, what do you expect? Believe me, I\'ve learned from it. My role is just to make more plays and make the plays that come to me and not try to go outside of the scheme, just do my job.\"

There\'s no questioning Buchanon\'s talent or skills. He has scored three touchdowns off interceptions and three more on punt returns. His six touchdowns on returns overall came in just 22 games, making Buchanon the fastest player to reach that plateau since 1970.

But his problems in coverage have skeptics waiting to pounce on Buchanon\'s every mistake. Buchanon understands the criticism but says he\'s learned from his errors.

\"If you want to be the best you have to break everything down and look back at what happened and make sure it doesn\'t happen again,\" said Buchanon. \"If I make the plays I\'m supposed to make, then I think we\'ll be fine.\"


This story is from ESPN.com\'s automated news wire. Wire index

no_cloning 03-30-2005 01:03 PM

HOWARD FOR BUCHANNON is it true?
 
Is Drew Rosenhaus Darren Howard\'s agent too (like PB\'s)?

FireVenturi 03-30-2005 02:29 PM

HOWARD FOR BUCHANNON is it true?
 
Nothing on the Saints site or KFFl, still looks like a rumor!


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