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Old 03-30-2005, 02:00 PM   #11
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thanks--anybody got any more suggestions for comparison?
How about Tarkington versus Culpepper
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Old 03-30-2005, 02:01 PM   #12
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I\'m gonna wade in.

Moon - I agree, underrate historically.
Archie - c\'mon, that\'s not even a question.
Aikman - would have gone down as an all-time great without the injuries.
Favre - Vick has a lot to prove, and Favre is magic.

The hardest one, to me, is Young v. Montana.

The easy choice is Montana, but when I think about it, I\'ve got to say Steve Young is the better QB.

Until Peyton broke the record last season, Young held the all-time single-year efficiency rating record. Young had better physical tools than Montana and was/is smarter. Montana was made a hero b/c of \"the catch\" and b/c he was in the right place at the right time for the Bill Walsh West Coast Offense. Don\'t get me wrong, Montana is an all-time great. But if I had to build a team from scratch right now and I had to choose between Young and Montana both in their prime, I\'d take Young.

Montana: 16 yrs, 40,551 yards, 7.52 YPA, 63.24% Comp. %, 273 TD:139 INT, 92.3 QB Rating

Young: 15 yrs, 33,124 Yards, 7.98 YPA, 64.3% Comp. %, 232 TD:107 INT, 96.8 QB Rating

Also, in his prime, Young was unstoppable, and consistent. From 1987 - 1998, Young had only ONE year with a QB rating under 90. His numbers were 120.8, 72.2 (he started only 3 games that year), 120.8, 92.6, 101.8, 107, 101.5, 112.8, 92.3, 97.2, 104.7, 101.1.

Montana, on the other hand, seemed to teeter back and forth between greatness and AB type numbers. From 1982-1993 Montana went up, down, up, down, like so: 88, 94.6, 102.9, 91.3, 80.7, 102.1, 87.9, 112.4, 89, injured-no stats, 118.4, 87.4.

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Old 03-30-2005, 02:07 PM   #13
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group 1

steve mcnair versus Warren Moon

Aaron brooks versus archie manning

troy aikman versus roger staubach

joe montana versus steve young

terry bradshaw versus micheal vick


group 2:

Tarkington versus Culpepper

farve versus bart starr

bledsoe versus jim kelly

Johnny unitus versus Peyton Manning

Joe Theismann versus Mark Rypien

group three:

bernie kosar verus boomer essiasen

John Elway versus dan marino

Brady versus steve grogan

joe namath vesus randall cunningham



[Edited on 30/3/2005 by baronm]
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Old 03-30-2005, 02:13 PM   #14
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okay next round:
Tarkington versus Culpepper
farve versus bart starr
bledsoe versus jim kelly
Johnny unitus versus Peyton Manning
These are much tougher to pick -- but here goes

Culpepper ===favre, kelly and peyton

Culpepper is still growing -- has an awesome arm and is farily start -- bart starr was a brilliant tactician but I believe he benefited from the system -- rarely had to carry a team on his back -- kelly for sure -- and peyton ===
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Old 03-30-2005, 02:13 PM   #15
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Culpepper will be better when it is all said and done, but he\'s not yet.

Favre

Kelly - c\'mon.

Push. I can\'t call that one.
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Old 03-30-2005, 02:22 PM   #16
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Old 03-30-2005, 02:36 PM   #17
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i guess I was hoping to get the brackets done then talk..but it\'s been interesting so far.
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Old 03-30-2005, 02:41 PM   #18
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Culpepper will be better when it is all said and done, but he\'s not yet.
Favre
Kelly - c\'mon.
Push. I can\'t call that one.
Agree with the Culpepper == but Bledsoe over Kelly -- sorry Kelly went (and lost) 4 superbowls --- had a good arm etc etc. In their prime I would rather Kelly than Beldsoe --
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group 1

steve mcnair versus Warren Moon

Aaron brooks versus archie manning

troy aikman versus roger staubach

joe montana versus steve young

terry bradshaw versus micheal vick


group 2:

Tarkington versus Culpepper

farve versus bart starr

bledsoe versus jim kelly

Johnny unitus versus Peyton Manning

Joe Theismann versus Mark Rypien

group three:

bernie kosar verus boomer essiasen

John Elway versus dan marino

Brady versus steve grogan

joe namath vesus randall cunningham



[Edited on 30/3/2005 by baronm]
This will not be easy.

Group 1
McNair vs Moon...Moon, no contest
Brooks vs Manning...Manning
Aikman vs Staubach....Roger Dodger, close
Montana vs Young....gotta go with Montana
Bradshaw vs Vick...Terry, 4 rings

Group 2
Tarkenton vs Culpepper...Tarkenton, as of now
Favre vs Starr...my heart says Favre, my brain says Starr
Bledsoe vs Kelly...Kelly, no brainer, IMO
Unitus vs Peyton...tie
Theisman vs Rypien...Gotta go with Joe

Group 3
Kosar vs Esiason...Boomer
Elway vs Marino...Elway, one of my all-time favorites
Brady vs Who...j/k...Brady, of course
Namath vs Randall....give me a break, Joe Willie (Broadway Joe, if you prefer)

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Old 03-30-2005, 08:15 PM   #20
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Come on Boys ......

Fouts vs. Brees

All Time Ball buster - Stabler vs. Plunkett

Bartkowski vs . Vick

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