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natedogg02 · 03-31-2005, 11:45 AM

knowing our luck, we\'d get rid of AB to SanFran and he\'d blow up. Prob take em to the super bowl. Thats just our luck as NO fans. lol

GoldenTomb · 03-31-2005, 03:27 PM

Funny how some people are quick to give AB the credit for 2002 but give him a pass on 2004. You have to take the good with the bad.

GumboBC · 03-31-2005, 03:29 PM

Funny how some people are quick to give AB the credit for 2002 but give him a pass on 2004. You have to take the good with the bad.

Who gave AB the credit? Not me. I just said he was our QB. If he was our QB and we led the NFC in scoring in 2002 then he sure has regressed.

It\'s funny how some give AB all the blame but never any of the credit?

GoldenTomb · 03-31-2005, 03:37 PM

I wasn\'t necessarily talking about you, just people.

But see that\'s just it. He was a part of their success in 2002 and a part of their failure in 2004. Just as I would praise him and give him credit in 2002(which I did)I will hold him accountable for 2004. But you are right....some people are horribly one-sided.

GumboBC · 03-31-2005, 03:41 PM

I wasn\'t necessarily talking about you, just people.

But see that\'s just it. He was a part of their success in 2002 and a part of their failure in 2004. Just as I would praise him and give him credit in 2002(which I did)I will hold him accountable for 2004. But you are right....some people are horribly one-sided.

I give Brooks no more credit for the sucess in 2002 than I do the blame in 2004. Brooks had a better O-line in 2002 and had much longer in the pocket.

So ... much of the credit for 2002 goes to the supporting cast and much of the blame in 2004 goes to the supporting cast.

Of course, Brooks shares some blame and deserves some credit.

My 2 cents in the nickel

[Edited on 31/3/2005 by GumboBC]

GoldenTomb · 03-31-2005, 03:54 PM

Fair enough...until we see another inverted pass.

spkb25 · 03-31-2005, 07:14 PM

fire venturi please explaine to me how last year jake was average and the team good. they were plagued with injuries. it is tough to see the quality in brooks when he throws the ball backwards and once again dives for a touchdown and ooops forgot the ball. i am with you on the line. i saw him at times have no time to throw. then i saw him at times still make bad plays. really bad plays. i used to support the guy until his stupid comments. because the sad truth is jake is a better qb right now. had a lot less talent last year to work with and was better. jakes not as talented just more intelligent.

Rsanders24 · 04-01-2005, 12:47 AM

First of all, why do you think that we had way more talent than the Panthers? Yes, Jake\'s numbers were a little better. If Davis and Foster played all year his numbers would be the same as they were last year, about average. Receivers are about equal when you compare their stats. They didn\'t know what they had in Muhsin Muhammad until he made some spectactular catches and they saw that he could go up and get the ball on anyone. Their 3rd RB was just a effective as Deuce and had 4 less fumbles. O-line gave Jake more time and less sacks. Of couse the D was better than ours. So what else is there?

spkb25 · 04-01-2005, 07:29 AM

im sorry are they the words i used. that we had \" way better talent then the panthers last year\". no i dont believe i said that at all. what i did say is dont tell me how brooks play on an average team and he is a good qb while jake plays on a good team and is average. his team was beat up last year and he still went out and performed. what brooks would have done is cryed about how great he is. hey i think brooks is a pretty good qb. he could be even better. i did see brooks last year make some really bad plays. you dont make those type of plays year in and year out and talk about how good you are. this isnt a judgement of talent. i dont see really good qb\'s make those types of plays as often as brooks. matter of fact i dont see anyone do that. i dont think brooks can really consider himself a good qb until he can rememeber to bring the ball with him when he dives over the goal line. but this wasnt set up as a brooks bashing thread or another brooks verse jake thread. so if you want to post back you can but i dont want to argue it anymore. ill read what you post back though.

03-31-2005, 11:45 AM	#11
natedogg02 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 145	on mccarthy knowing our luck, we\'d get rid of AB to SanFran and he\'d blow up. Prob take em to the super bowl. Thats just our luck as NO fans. lol
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03-31-2005, 03:27 PM	#12
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	on mccarthy Funny how some people are quick to give AB the credit for 2002 but give him a pass on 2004. You have to take the good with the bad.
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03-31-2005, 03:29 PM	#13
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	on mccarthy Funny how some people are quick to give AB the credit for 2002 but give him a pass on 2004. You have to take the good with the bad. Who gave AB the credit? Not me. I just said he was our QB. If he was our QB and we led the NFC in scoring in 2002 then he sure has regressed. It\'s funny how some give AB all the blame but never any of the credit?
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03-31-2005, 03:37 PM	#14
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	on mccarthy I wasn\'t necessarily talking about you, just people. But see that\'s just it. He was a part of their success in 2002 and a part of their failure in 2004. Just as I would praise him and give him credit in 2002(which I did)I will hold him accountable for 2004. But you are right....some people are horribly one-sided.
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03-31-2005, 03:41 PM	#15
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	on mccarthy I wasn\'t necessarily talking about you, just people. But see that\'s just it. He was a part of their success in 2002 and a part of their failure in 2004. Just as I would praise him and give him credit in 2002(which I did)I will hold him accountable for 2004. But you are right....some people are horribly one-sided. I give Brooks no more credit for the sucess in 2002 than I do the blame in 2004. Brooks had a better O-line in 2002 and had much longer in the pocket. So ... much of the credit for 2002 goes to the supporting cast and much of the blame in 2004 goes to the supporting cast. Of course, Brooks shares some blame and deserves some credit. My 2 cents in the nickel [Edited on 31/3/2005 by GumboBC]
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03-31-2005, 03:54 PM	#16
GoldenTomb 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 591	on mccarthy Fair enough...until we see another inverted pass.
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03-31-2005, 07:14 PM	#17
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	on mccarthy fire venturi please explaine to me how last year jake was average and the team good. they were plagued with injuries. it is tough to see the quality in brooks when he throws the ball backwards and once again dives for a touchdown and ooops forgot the ball. i am with you on the line. i saw him at times have no time to throw. then i saw him at times still make bad plays. really bad plays. i used to support the guy until his stupid comments. because the sad truth is jake is a better qb right now. had a lot less talent last year to work with and was better. jakes not as talented just more intelligent.
	Your team stinks

04-01-2005, 12:47 AM	#18
Rsanders24 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 1,471	on mccarthy First of all, why do you think that we had way more talent than the Panthers? Yes, Jake\'s numbers were a little better. If Davis and Foster played all year his numbers would be the same as they were last year, about average. Receivers are about equal when you compare their stats. They didn\'t know what they had in Muhsin Muhammad until he made some spectactular catches and they saw that he could go up and get the ball on anyone. Their 3rd RB was just a effective as Deuce and had 4 less fumbles. O-line gave Jake more time and less sacks. Of couse the D was better than ours. So what else is there?

04-01-2005, 07:29 AM	#19
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	on mccarthy im sorry are they the words i used. that we had \" way better talent then the panthers last year\". no i dont believe i said that at all. what i did say is dont tell me how brooks play on an average team and he is a good qb while jake plays on a good team and is average. his team was beat up last year and he still went out and performed. what brooks would have done is cryed about how great he is. hey i think brooks is a pretty good qb. he could be even better. i did see brooks last year make some really bad plays. you dont make those type of plays year in and year out and talk about how good you are. this isnt a judgement of talent. i dont see really good qb\'s make those types of plays as often as brooks. matter of fact i dont see anyone do that. i dont think brooks can really consider himself a good qb until he can rememeber to bring the ball with him when he dives over the goal line. but this wasnt set up as a brooks bashing thread or another brooks verse jake thread. so if you want to post back you can but i dont want to argue it anymore. ill read what you post back though.
	Your team stinks