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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II It is a fair question. ... He and Ginn don't have their timing down yet ... Just float it way downfield, like you would for Devery. It might get dropped, but if it doesnt, ...

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Old 07-17-2017, 11:29 AM   #21
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Re: Should Brees sit out training camp?

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II View Post
It is a fair question. ... He and Ginn don't have their timing down yet ...
Just float it way downfield, like you would for Devery. It might get dropped, but if it doesnt, its 6.
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Old 07-17-2017, 11:35 AM   #22
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Not happening under any circumstances.
This. Remember when Brees was out for the game against Carolina? Dude was on the sidelines running through his reads for the called plays.

The same drive and personality that makes him a HOF QB also is the same drive and personality that makes it virtually impossible for him to take a break. We should be lucky that he understands that preseason games are a waste of time and that 4 quarters during the preseason is enough to get prepped in game conditions.

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This. Remember when Brees was out for the game against Carolina? Dude was on the sidelines running through his reads for the called plays.

The same drive and personality that makes him a HOF QB also is the same drive and personality that makes it virtually impossible for him to take a break. We should be lucky that he understands that preseason games are a waste of time and that 4 quarters during the preseason is enough to get prepped in game conditions.

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Re: Should Brees sit out training camp?

I wouldn't mind seeing 2 backups battling it out for the #2 spot. We know who's going to start but maybe a peak into what really sits behind Brees?
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Old 07-18-2017, 04:46 PM   #26
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This imo is one of the problems. Brees does not play enough in preseason as it is and as a result if the backup QBs are not playing well, we will not get a good estimate of the defense if they are being put back on the field constantly.
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Old 07-18-2017, 05:43 PM   #27
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This imo is one of the problems. Brees does not play enough in preseason as it is and as a result if the backup QBs are not playing well, we will not get a good estimate of the defense if they are being put back on the field constantly.
Will, as usual everything is a problem. In fact your point is moot on several fronts:

1. Preseason is a waste of time. Everyone runs vanilla schemes and starters generally only play enough to break a sweat.

2. By the time teams get to the backup QBs, both teams have gone to the second string on both sides of the ball. So the guys out there on defense often will not be the guys playing in September when the flack starts flying.

3. The purpose of preseason is to evaluate talent under real time conditions. Established starters are generally not the focus of that evaluation process.

The Saints defense needs to do the two of three things they always needed to do. Keep defensive scoring in the low 20's, get off the field, stay healthy, and create turnovers. Nothing that happens in preseason is really going to predict any of those items other than if players play more in the preseason, the more likely they are to be injured in the process.

Will the defense actually be better? I'm unsure. Will we know one way or another in the preseason? No way in hell.

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Do like Farve and take it light. Would be a shame for him to get injured and he is getting older. Already knows playbook backwards and forwards.
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Will the defense actually be better? I'm unsure. Will we know one way or another in the preseason? No way in hell.

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Training camp will not tell us anything about what we will see from the defense come the regular season. Although, we hear it every year ... I am preparing myself for the declarations of doom and gloom if the defense gives up 30 points in the second preseason game.

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Will, as usual everything is a problem. In fact your point is moot on several fronts:

1. Preseason is a waste of time. Everyone runs vanilla schemes and starters generally only play enough to break a sweat.

2. By the time teams get to the backup QBs, both teams have gone to the second string on both sides of the ball. So the guys out there on defense often will not be the guys playing in September when the flack starts flying.

3. The purpose of preseason is to evaluate talent under real time conditions. Established starters are generally not the focus of that evaluation process.

The Saints defense needs to do the two of three things they always needed to do. Keep defensive scoring in the low 20's, get off the field, stay healthy, and create turnovers. Nothing that happens in preseason is really going to predict any of those items other than if players play more in the preseason, the more likely they are to be injured in the process.

Will the defense actually be better? I'm unsure. Will we know one way or another in the preseason? No way in hell.

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You think I don't know teams run vanilla schemes in pre-season? It's the posters here bringing up the 2009 preseason to measure up against what this preseason will have. Still, a defense that keeps being put back on the field in one half is still gonna be worn down.
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